tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post236266533340540290..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Student Essay!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-75128721811884270362010-08-29T01:31:18.790-04:002010-08-29T01:31:18.790-04:00Can we get an "intro to racism" here? Go...Can we get an "intro to racism" here? God.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27153244415260621982010-07-22T13:49:56.828-04:002010-07-22T13:49:56.828-04:00Also, John, you are changing the subject. There a...Also, John, you are changing the subject. There are so very many places online where you can go to discuss your feelings and observations about the way people of various ethnic groups behave (not that I am advocating such places).<br /><br />We are not here on this blog to do that.Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329984660836298211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-37341873395564918342010-07-22T13:35:42.750-04:002010-07-22T13:35:42.750-04:00"That said, the unwed teen mother phenomenon ..."That said, the unwed teen mother phenomenon seems to be VERY prevalent among the chicanas. It's the way it is, and me saying that has nothing to do with racism. . ."<br /><br />No, but using using the term "chicanas" unnecessarily, and in a belittling manner does.<br /><br />I'm not going to go into the history, culture or present day circumstances that lead to many Irisesintheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12628659420505210456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27858456481690406392010-07-21T15:59:14.147-04:002010-07-21T15:59:14.147-04:00At my community college where I teach (I'm in ...At my community college where I teach (I'm in class RIGHT NOW!) I get all sorts of irritating and wonderful students of all races. But honestly, I can't deny that I get a large number of hispanic females who had babies out of wedlock and have brains the size of peas. I do. I also get plenty of white bimbos who work at stip joints to support their own illegitimate offspring. I haven&#No Cookieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17722547269501795463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-90213471965379498482010-07-20T17:52:44.615-04:002010-07-20T17:52:44.615-04:00Meanest,
I have no idea what your campus is like,...Meanest,<br /><br />I have no idea what your campus is like, or what the problems may be there.<br /><br />I do know that I at my college, white students are the minority. 30% white, 70% minorities of different stripes and shades. <br /><br />I have been here seven years, and I have never seen a majority of minority (I couldn't resist the alliteration) snowflakes or complainers. It's Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329984660836298211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-7390816905231727982010-07-20T14:43:38.405-04:002010-07-20T14:43:38.405-04:00Your math deals with anecdotes. So do your asserti...Your math deals with anecdotes. So do your assertions. It only proves what you have decided is significant and memorable. <br /><br />Meanwhile, your phrasing is vague and your language overly aggressive. Calm down, Meanest. Seriously, calm down. It's just a stupid water cooler blog. No need to freak out and write long diatribes against imaginary enemies with incomprehensible flaws. We'Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-72347020066600332852010-07-20T13:59:08.091-04:002010-07-20T13:59:08.091-04:00Let’s do math!
Let’s say 40% of my students expre...Let’s do math!<br /><br />Let’s say 40% of my students expressed verbal disgust at some course policy at least once during a given term. Not most of them, but enough to register on the snowflake alert meter.<br /><br />Let’s also assume that 60% of the complaints came from white students. That means that 24% of my students were "white complainers." Got that?<br /><br />Now let’s Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-21839037915721120912010-07-20T11:44:06.564-04:002010-07-20T11:44:06.564-04:00The biggest thing to me here is that I don't s...The biggest thing to me here is that I don't see why Meanest has to make this an issue of race. It reveals more of Meanest than it does about these students. Contrary to Meanest's assumptions, I have a LOT of experience working with working class and "at-risk" students (being one myself). And I'm telling you, it isn't the at-risk minority kids who are demanding. It'sAcademic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-71828205798303494062010-07-20T07:01:33.157-04:002010-07-20T07:01:33.157-04:00I deleted the above post after detecting a typo. ...I deleted the above post after detecting a typo. I hope there are not more. Not to sound too much like a snowflake, but I have not had my coffee yet!<br /><br />Meanest,<br /><br />I teach at an inner city community college, and I am being open eyed and honest when I say that I do NOT have more trouble (in the form of cheating, complaining, and just being intolerable snowflakes) from my AfricanBellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329984660836298211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-15387558072123563542010-07-20T06:57:55.943-04:002010-07-20T06:57:55.943-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329984660836298211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12460424997996336072010-07-19T23:41:53.712-04:002010-07-19T23:41:53.712-04:00Academic Monkey, if you re-read my post, that'...Academic Monkey, if you re-read my post, that's what I said.<br /><br />In a way, you just proved my point: No one "hears" when you note this pattern that a large number of a small population have an issue with basic course policies.<br /><br />Considering the school I was at had students (of every ethnic and racial background) from mostly poor and working class families, that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-75080748074728767112010-07-19T22:53:06.228-04:002010-07-19T22:53:06.228-04:00I don't know about that last point, professor ...I don't know about that last point, professor Meany. The kids most up in my grill are middle to upper class white kids. Considering the low proportion of African-American kids who make it to the college population, I'm surprised to hear your conclusion there. It's certainly not something I've noticed, even when I was attending the third most diverse campus in our great nation.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-61405212241724803612010-07-19T22:23:41.282-04:002010-07-19T22:23:41.282-04:00Marcia, it's one of the issues NO ONE talks ab...Marcia, it's one of the issues NO ONE talks about. It's taboo. Insert <a href="http://janeqrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/see-no-evil.jpg" rel="nofollow">picture of three monkeys</a> here.<br /><br />I've never had a foreign-born student slam me in the way Academic Monkey's student did. The ones who didn't rise to meet my ever-lowering standards either disappeared, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-28276490150606041752010-07-19T20:09:33.892-04:002010-07-19T20:09:33.892-04:00Meany, you made my day: I actually wrote it up onc...Meany, you made my day: I actually wrote it up once for RYS and it was rejected.<br /><br />Which might mean it isn't worthy.<br /><br />It should be ESL students not ESF students, for one.Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87984666771230464862010-07-19T17:13:44.295-04:002010-07-19T17:13:44.295-04:00Marcia! That's an excellent post in itself!!!...Marcia! That's an excellent post in itself!!!!<br /><br />Wanna post it up on the main page?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-83830609848555265372010-07-19T14:26:01.052-04:002010-07-19T14:26:01.052-04:00Heh heh. You can't just say, "My class, ...Heh heh. You can't just say, "My class, my rules"? Sad.<br /><br />My fave was actually a foreign exchange student who wrote me to tell me that my points system was unfair. I wrote him back, "Dear X, due to your limited language skills I have purposefully not graded you on anything but content, and even then inflated your grades by a full grade in order to ensure you pass Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-31810576101405551732010-07-19T14:22:55.020-04:002010-07-19T14:22:55.020-04:00See? I guess I really do deserve my reputation fo...See? I guess I really do deserve my reputation for being an unmitigated, uncaring, horrible BITCH! <br /><br />I'd have given that essay no higher than a D based upon the errors you describe.Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329984660836298211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-29106796065765170492010-07-19T13:43:38.139-04:002010-07-19T13:43:38.139-04:00My favorite math professor, the late W.R. Mann, wh...My favorite math professor, the late W.R. Mann, who won teaching awards nearly every year, told his students: "Most math problems are 90% English and 10% math. Once you have stated the problem correctly, the solution is usually trivial." Our homework and exam answers had to be in complete, grammatically-correct "sentences," whether they were English words, mathematical Dude the Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882641759616338900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-82789788751113529802010-07-19T10:54:16.410-04:002010-07-19T10:54:16.410-04:00I adjuncted at a crappy university for a year, tea...I adjuncted at a crappy university for a year, teaching freshman composition/rhetoric and research, and we English teachers got all the usual flak from the other departments for "not teaching the students how to write." Stuff like this shows that it's really not OUR fault if the student doesn't think writing is important outside a basic English class. (I also had several tell meSnarky Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196509615328045888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-65344138226002891372010-07-19T08:49:59.557-04:002010-07-19T08:49:59.557-04:00Obviously your students, just like mine, have fail...Obviously your students, just like mine, have failed to grasp the concept that language matters all the time, not just when it is being graded. Furthermore, a good part of any discipline is learning how to write in that discipline.PickyHistorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13500487513256575244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-39013859272103359672010-07-19T08:26:14.698-04:002010-07-19T08:26:14.698-04:00I had a student last spring who sent me a doozy of...I had a student last spring who sent me a doozy of an email, basically along these lines. As an Upper Level Literature course, I shouldn't be discussing how to do research. Particularly since I am not a professor of (wait for it) ... "Creative Writing." He, as the Brilliant Creative Writing Senior, did not want to waste his time helping others figure out thesis statements. Even if Procrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381908122802480870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46357197273668421272010-07-19T02:38:00.794-04:002010-07-19T02:38:00.794-04:00The University I went to in the UK had a policy of...The University I went to in the UK had a policy of "all teachers are teachers of English" when it came to situations like this. What's the point of doing research (or the undergrad equivalent) if you can't clearly and cogently convey your thoughts?Go cat, go!https://www.blogger.com/profile/15532788594238877937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-151849513700969732010-07-19T02:10:59.255-04:002010-07-19T02:10:59.255-04:00I once had a student tell me in an evaluation that...I once had a student tell me in an evaluation that, "This is a Math class, not an English class. Grades should not be docked for grammar and punctuation." I only docked the students for glaring mistakes and, when they had something that was technically right, but written in a way that was confusing or mathematically improper, I would mark it but not deduct any points. I would love to beMathsquatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01214283890697119803noreply@blogger.com