tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post2873057968323054886..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Not going to survive this dietUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-76085556145083515782013-05-13T17:30:29.270-04:002013-05-13T17:30:29.270-04:00Oh, A&S, so sorry. Fantastic graphic.Oh, A&S, so sorry. Fantastic graphic. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-82946353691079183422013-05-13T07:47:29.148-04:002013-05-13T07:47:29.148-04:00Uh, PG, all due respect to the RGM, but I found th...Uh, PG, all due respect to the RGM, but I found the graphic. :)Aware and Scaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700345349806280657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-24724496465150184992013-05-13T06:27:35.961-04:002013-05-13T06:27:35.961-04:00A&S, I am not sure where you go from there. A...A&S, I am not sure where you go from there. At my institution, if you play along for a while, you end up off the radar (all the admins have such short attention spans). I hope you are off their radar soon!Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686242633678466958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-34993105505432461692013-05-12T22:55:54.400-04:002013-05-12T22:55:54.400-04:00@A&S: I'm sorry you have to deal with thi...@A&S: I'm sorry you have to deal with this. Again with Peter K's advice. <br /><br />From what I've seen of the accreditation process, success means that the admin jumped through the hoops and wrote an organized report. We get rewarded for saying we've made an "honest appraisal" and solicited "frank feedback" from "every constituency" in the &Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-43420847383022526612013-05-12T22:31:31.707-04:002013-05-12T22:31:31.707-04:00Three cheers to the RGM who picked this up and add...Three cheers to the RGM who picked this up and added the graphic. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-63912332616659507632013-05-12T22:29:11.716-04:002013-05-12T22:29:11.716-04:00@NLAA: Yes to "autoentropic vapour". Fr...@NLAA: Yes to "autoentropic vapour". From now on, that is how I will think of self-esteem.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-76747595848370459632013-05-12T22:24:45.885-04:002013-05-12T22:24:45.885-04:00@Aware and Scared, I skipped right over the commen...@Aware and Scared, I skipped right over the comments to say:<br /><br />Fuck that. What bullshit. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-76952878770977184482013-05-12T15:32:15.541-04:002013-05-12T15:32:15.541-04:00Ah, gods, I read this post and all the comments an...Ah, gods, I read this post and all the comments and all I could think is that this is just so fucked up, it defies my ability to understand it. Because it sounds like you are not being permitted to give the kind of feedback that might actually help them. What. The. Fuck.<br /><br />My rubrics are posted in the LMS, and they have 5 ranges for whatever criteria I a am assessing: exceptional (A), BurntChromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06055976331443607569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-13117222283396619742013-05-12T09:43:21.197-04:002013-05-12T09:43:21.197-04:00I hear you F&T.
Remember, I teach clinical Ca...I hear you F&T.<br /><br />Remember, I teach clinical Care & Feeding of Wombats so we use a lot of case study vignettes as source material. <br /><br />I cannot tell you the number of times my original comment was along the lines of "WTF? Where in the case study was this even suggested never mind explicitly stated?"<br /><br />An extrapolation of the self-of-steam arrogance is Aware and Scaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700345349806280657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-69856768254570860422013-05-12T09:30:54.773-04:002013-05-12T09:30:54.773-04:00Thanks for the suggestions, Bella.
To paraphrase M...Thanks for the suggestions, Bella.<br />To paraphrase M. Poppins, these might be just enough sugar to make the bitter pill go down. <br /><br />Ironically, in the very class that prompted this shitstorm, I did post a class-wide commendation because, lo and behold, a recent batch of work was legitimately praise worthy.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the bigger conundrum for me is:<br />1) The Aware and Scaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700345349806280657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-50632140113508066152013-05-12T09:23:29.125-04:002013-05-12T09:23:29.125-04:00CC ...
Yes, I have been advised to avoid first p...CC ... <br /><br />Yes, I have been advised to avoid first person in feedback unless, of course, praise is being provided. <br /><br />Can there be any more of a grotesque application of self-of-steam lunacy that we encourage their claiming of the good while divorcing themselves from anything that isn't?Aware and Scaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700345349806280657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-40419197982820442722013-05-12T09:21:41.699-04:002013-05-12T09:21:41.699-04:00I do the same Zora.
You should be happy that you ...I do the same Zora.<br /><br />You should be happy that you get those arrogantly ignorant rejoinders. <br />Much more commonly in my experience, they go ignored -- as do my "Don't make these mistakes" slideshow, "It's not personal, it's writing" essay, and the piles of sterile feedback I do provide!Aware and Scaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700345349806280657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-73368415985894998652013-05-12T08:28:46.881-04:002013-05-12T08:28:46.881-04:00I do show them A-level papers...in fact, I post on...I do show them A-level papers...in fact, I post one or two sample A papers on our LMS, open it up in class, point out what makes them A papers, recommend to individual students that they look more closely at the sample A papers, and then end up in a face-to-face conference with a student who doesn't understand why hir load of disorganized drivel didn't get an A. "Let's look at Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14298623277254751613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-64262416827848551102013-05-11T22:45:54.009-04:002013-05-11T22:45:54.009-04:00Oh yes, compliments. On the rare occasions I see a...Oh yes, compliments. On the rare occasions I see an original or clever solution to a homework problem I write: <i> good! </i> next to it.<br /><br />But my more typical comments are:<br /><br /><i> ??? Why? Does not follow. More detail needed. This is what you're trying to prove! ??? Why? Basic algebra! XXX No! X Wrong problem. ??</i><br />Peter Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00754472537710161295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-58639165053571988132013-05-11T20:07:05.210-04:002013-05-11T20:07:05.210-04:00Also, I'm enjoying picturing the wheat thin on...Also, I'm enjoying picturing the wheat thin on top of the manure pile. I think there's a fly rubbing its legs perched on top of the wheat thin. Of course, the manure pile makes me think of composting, and the garden . . . .summer really is almost here. Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-81150694322502902262013-05-11T20:05:21.995-04:002013-05-11T20:05:21.995-04:00Typos or not, I like these, especially "your ...Typos or not, I like these, especially "your work is thought-provoking." I have all kinds of thoughts while grading, some of them printable/shareable with the student, many not. <br /><br />But I wonder whether A&S is supposed to avoid "you." I've been told that that helps with students' tendency to confuse themselves/their self worth with the quality of their Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-67051707890532301082013-05-11T20:01:33.424-04:002013-05-11T20:01:33.424-04:00This is, of course, the sort of topic that guarant...This is, of course, the sort of topic that guarantees that we will all make numerous silly typing errors as we reply. There's a relevant corollary to Murphy's law, I'm pretty sure. Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-88196391994392370322013-05-11T19:24:27.117-04:002013-05-11T19:24:27.117-04:00Of course, "understand" should be "...Of course, "understand" should be "understanding" in the previous post.Defunct Adjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12954331373226016090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-86125932359968076152013-05-11T19:23:00.456-04:002013-05-11T19:23:00.456-04:00I'm with you, Frog and Toad.
I've writte...I'm with you, Frog and Toad. <br /><br />I've written "This is not college-level writing" or something similar on plenty of papers, and I always get rewarded on my course evaluations with complaints that I am too harsh, that I never have anything nice to say, and that I grade "like an English professor" when it comes to grammar and sentence construction.<br /><br />I Defunct Adjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12954331373226016090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-18924749192306961282013-05-11T19:00:42.924-04:002013-05-11T19:00:42.924-04:00Oh my...."This might serve YOU well...."...Oh my...."This might serve YOU well...."Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686242633678466958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-88186921174552270612013-05-11T18:56:16.350-04:002013-05-11T18:56:16.350-04:00Wow. I'm realizing my comments are pretty sca...Wow. I'm realizing my comments are pretty scathing:<br /><br />"This is not college-level writing," for instance. I do try to say one nice thing to open up, but my comments may actually look like a Wheat Thin sitting on top of a pile of steaming manure.Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-73045448478947507362013-05-11T18:55:33.927-04:002013-05-11T18:55:33.927-04:00Augh! I am always rushing through things when I p...Augh! I am always rushing through things when I post here. I regret it. <br />"This might serve your well...."<br />"You have a solid sense...."<br />Capital effing O.<br /><br />Augh Augh Augh.Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686242633678466958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-69188204949232058322013-05-11T18:28:21.624-04:002013-05-11T18:28:21.624-04:00I have to admit to skipping the compliments now th...I have to admit to skipping the compliments now that I have tenure.....sometimes. I do work in a place where self of stream is taken fairly seriously, and I don't like to get shit from folks.<br /><br />A&S, I am so sorry. You are in a shitty situation. I have trouble giving passing grades to complete dolts. I really do. And I have trouble dumbing down my assignments (although I Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686242633678466958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-16848790354502126822013-05-11T18:15:14.642-04:002013-05-11T18:15:14.642-04:00Fuck.Fuck.Southern Bubba, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992903794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-57681070077046843362013-05-11T12:33:29.996-04:002013-05-11T12:33:29.996-04:00Ugh! Basically, what Peter K said in italics. Alo...Ugh! Basically, what Peter K said in italics. Along those lines, it sounds like what you need is a file (or set of macros, or whatever your technology easily supports) of canned "shit sandwich" feedback, one very generic whole sandwich to go with each of the grade levels you can assign which will work for most assignments, and some individual pieces of "bread" and "Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.com