tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post7642846725830109985..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: A Twin Thirsty on Following Directions.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-3419063809273809572013-12-15T17:57:04.582-05:002013-12-15T17:57:04.582-05:00My husband assigned a 3-5 minute ungraded presenta...My husband assigned a 3-5 minute ungraded presentation to summarize term papers, which were to be turned in at the end of the class on presentation day. The idea was that each student would have a deep (at the intro to basket weaving level) look at one topic, but get to see a short presentation on everything else. To reiterate: the presentation was to summarize the paper. <br /><br />One Wombat of the Copierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847183793780076028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-89079645149593392342013-12-15T02:43:35.539-05:002013-12-15T02:43:35.539-05:00Please do post, I'm interested in what you hav...Please do post, I'm interested in what you have.Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-54586792475852533332013-12-15T01:27:40.172-05:002013-12-15T01:27:40.172-05:00Darn you, CM! You stole the topic of my next post....Darn you, CM! You stole the topic of my next post. Well, not quite. But there's some overlap. But post I will soon enough.<br /><br />This term I saw instances of inattentiveness that would in other contexts cry out for neurological diagnosis. It really is that bad sometimes.Old Schoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13699515354669340909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87692492558808161282013-12-14T23:22:33.139-05:002013-12-14T23:22:33.139-05:00@Suzy: I need your slides!
@Suzy: I need your slides!<br />tuxandtaleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00031193917151447102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-45686211196083938932013-12-14T17:53:25.538-05:002013-12-14T17:53:25.538-05:00I just graded finals. 50% of this final was short ...I just graded finals. 50% of this final was short answers with the phrase "answer in complete sentences" bold and in large font. <br /><br />I already have my first complainer: "How can I get 50% on a writing test?" <br /><br />Nope, not going to respond. In part because, you see, it wasn't a writing test.<br /><br />Sarcastic Bastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01407507896787403097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-70144091702338054122013-12-14T17:18:40.220-05:002013-12-14T17:18:40.220-05:00They don't read any more, they skim. They half...They don't read any more, they skim. They half listen. They are on Twitbook. <br /><br />Do you know what I actually did this past term? I dared to request that no laptops be used. None. If no one cracked a notebook, I would post my slides on underwater hamster fur weaving. Would you believe it? They refrained, and we have had some great discussions in class. Second week of class one guy Suzy from Square Statehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03085856052108645578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-20753153482841632962013-12-14T16:49:34.026-05:002013-12-14T16:49:34.026-05:00Not in my classroom, but of course in my classroom...Not in my classroom, but of course in my classroom the penalties for not stapling right are rather severe... MUUAA-ha-HAAAA!!!Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-17431380555440495162013-12-14T16:03:56.176-05:002013-12-14T16:03:56.176-05:00What I'm seeing is, I think,more resistance to...What I'm seeing is, I think,more resistance to following some directions than inability to follow same. A substantial minority of my students really, really, really, really want to do something they have already done before. Ideally, they'd like to simply hand in something they already have, but, barring that, they want to complete an assignment that is very much like numerous Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-24962429164146043702013-12-14T14:09:11.544-05:002013-12-14T14:09:11.544-05:00Another addition to the Mantra List: It is time t...Another addition to the Mantra List: It is time to grow up now.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00331203839723194193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-90265373177522695912013-12-14T14:03:54.263-05:002013-12-14T14:03:54.263-05:00Iskander:
Draconian measures often didn't wor...Iskander:<br /><br />Draconian measures often didn't work. I could take off points for, say, not adhering to standards that the students would deal with when they graduated and started working. Did they listen? Nope. They were all going to work for places where such standards wouldn't apply. (In fact, I had one kid tell me "We don't do that in our company." Then again,Quarter Wave Verticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173446011323023116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-478035714768455302013-12-14T14:00:23.988-05:002013-12-14T14:00:23.988-05:00I had that all the time while I was teaching. In ...I had that all the time while I was teaching. In almost every course, I had students who behaved as if standards for their work and rules of behaviour didn't apply to them. They fought any measures to correct it and frequently filed complaints about me. Worse yet, there were administrators who supported them.<br /><br />Most of those students were young and seriously needed to grow up. Quarter Wave Verticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173446011323023116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-91168675242985763952013-12-14T13:14:20.895-05:002013-12-14T13:14:20.895-05:00I just posted this on FaceBook: Dear university st...I just posted this on FaceBook: Dear university student: Let us review what happens when I give an assignment. I present it in class, projected on the screen. We go through it line by line and the class has the opportunity to ask questions. If anything is unclear, we work on the wording and make sure it is clear. I then post the class-approved assignment online and I usually send an announcement tuxandtaleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00031193917151447102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-45102578141785194402013-12-14T12:46:57.688-05:002013-12-14T12:46:57.688-05:00I've been having them use google docs for subm...I've been having them use google docs for submission for this reason: I can see what changes they made and how long it took to do them. Three Sigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10822893039310439770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47303694160309544362013-12-14T12:29:32.001-05:002013-12-14T12:29:32.001-05:00Snowflakes perceive instructions to be the same as...Snowflakes perceive instructions to be the same as "rules" -- and, as we all know, rules are bad, unfair, mean, etc. Thank goodness failure to follow rules on assignments doesn't usually have the same degree of consequences as failure to follow rules on the road -- like DON'T TEXT WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. (That's another rule deemed bad, unfair, and mean by the snowflakesFinnfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02282896112304604873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-58268659998794007112013-12-14T12:08:17.655-05:002013-12-14T12:08:17.655-05:00In my senior year as an undergraduate student I di...In my senior year as an undergraduate student I did some homework grading for a junior level course (it was a TA-poor department, so the profs could hire UG students to do some grading). <br /><br />One student, taking the course for the SECOND time, re-submitted Assignment #1 from their FIRST time taking the course: red marks, poor grade (72%) and all.<br />AND Assignment #1 for THAT year's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-83336816425103903932013-12-14T11:36:36.014-05:002013-12-14T11:36:36.014-05:00I also have found my comments STILL in the paper! ...I also have found my comments STILL in the paper! Annoying!!!Frennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17126693773120200776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-17080353223757478812013-12-14T11:09:35.721-05:002013-12-14T11:09:35.721-05:00I'm starting to wonder if draconian measures a...I'm starting to wonder if draconian measures are necessary to break them out of their narcissistic reverie. I desperately want to believe that there are thinking human beings somewhere underneath those layers of apathy and contempt and all they require is a sufficient jolt to surface.<br /><br />Of course, this is where the hopes come into conflict with the requisites of college Iskanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890540417632709181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-72507359910866937962013-12-14T11:01:40.895-05:002013-12-14T11:01:40.895-05:00They simply don't care. That is, they bring to...They simply don't care. That is, they bring to any class a set of behaviors that's intrinsic--it is how they relate to academics--and nothing we try to do will change that.<br /><br />For instance, it is impossible to make a certain kind of student staple the pages or write their section numbers on a homework set. I enforced this term a one-point deduction (out of eight points possible) Peter Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00754472537710161295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6743338205314166162013-12-14T10:35:16.847-05:002013-12-14T10:35:16.847-05:00I allow my students to submit rough drafts for com...I allow my students to submit rough drafts for comments before the due date (only about 5-10% take me up on the offer, so minimal extra work and it gives some students an opportunity to improve). I had this one student who had done poorly on the previous paper talk to me afterwards to find out ways she could improve. I told her about the rough drafts being the most likely way. Before the final Iskanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15890540417632709181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60905825077515824882013-12-14T10:04:42.024-05:002013-12-14T10:04:42.024-05:00Yep. Every semester I see it in the papers they t...Yep. Every semester I see it in the papers they turn in. In the drafts I remind them of source types and number (Wikipedia should not be listed), how to cite, and that they need two sides for an argument. An alarming percentage do not make changes which is even clearer using Word's compare documents function! It does make grading oh so easy though.Frennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17126693773120200776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-78068628807463257882013-12-14T09:53:41.478-05:002013-12-14T09:53:41.478-05:00I got some improvement, but I had to laboriously p...I got some improvement, but I had to laboriously point out what the kids had done wrong, and then explain WHY it was wrong. Good thing I'm trained in philosophy or that latter could get tricky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-14599290217783326492013-12-14T09:52:35.289-05:002013-12-14T09:52:35.289-05:00They haven't turned in their assignment yet. ...They haven't turned in their assignment yet. It's very late. I say to them, "Let's do it right now. I'll walk you through it, step by step by step...." They reply, "No, no, thanks. I'll do it this weekend. I've got to go wash my alpaca now." Monday arrives and the assignment is still not done. And they sit in class looking like everything's Southern Bubba, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992903794385204noreply@blogger.com