tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post871646116340586814..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Teacher whose barbed blog made headlines is fired. From USA Today.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-84829094572278764952012-06-28T20:32:58.175-04:002012-06-28T20:32:58.175-04:00Oy veh. I was with you mostly, Ben, till now. Gu...Oy veh. I was with you mostly, Ben, till now. Guess what: working-class women have always worked, some of us can't get married legally, and some of us have perfectly awesome single moms. I'm always suspicious of arguments that blame society's ills on family structure. The nuclear family with the stay-at-home mom was a 25-year blip on the screen.Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27758375945705730532012-06-28T08:57:04.077-04:002012-06-28T08:57:04.077-04:00Bush has to live with the fact that the public'...Bush has to live with the fact that the public's displeasure with him resulted in Obama being elected. That is a heavy burden for any republican.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-20219129528756626032012-06-28T08:55:31.901-04:002012-06-28T08:55:31.901-04:00Pedagogy has some influence. Bad teachers can mak...Pedagogy has some influence. Bad teachers can make things worse and good teachers can make students better but only to a certain extent. Poor behavior by students is caused by poor parenting and society at large. (So says the father of a daughter whose angelic nature is scientifically verifiable.)<br /><br />Our society has changed in many good ways over the past 50 years but not necessarily Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-63556977929774474972012-06-28T08:46:00.832-04:002012-06-28T08:46:00.832-04:00We should resist attempts at overzealous snooping ...We should resist attempts at overzealous snooping into our private lives. One complaint about my students after a few beers at a bar should not get me fired.<br /><br />I don't think it's a matter of kowtowing to our students. My behavior reflects upon my school. If I complain about my students, other parents won't want to send their kids to my class for fear that their son or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27578883596617589442012-06-28T03:42:07.937-04:002012-06-28T03:42:07.937-04:00Can't we have both?Can't we have both?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-83640725106524644972012-06-28T03:40:24.138-04:002012-06-28T03:40:24.138-04:00I still stand by what I wrote in February: I despi...I still stand by what I wrote in February: I despise the lese majeste of the students and their stumblefuck parents; I want the town demolished, and the townies forced into punishment battalions in Afghanistan.<br /><br />Either that or George Bush and the true president, that zombie robot Cheney tried in Den Haag. Your choice. The obviously guilty ex-politicos, or innocent townies who had Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12660962615198939441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-9300047409126233942012-06-27T23:49:53.090-04:002012-06-27T23:49:53.090-04:00Ben, are you in the camp that students behavior li...Ben, are you in the camp that students behavior like this because of pedagogy? Kids are worse in less capable teachers' classes? I might subscribe to that idea, but not entirely. Interested to see your take on the reasons behind our students' behavior.<br /><br />As for the subpoena, I think that if we have all done our due diligence to hide the details of our actual situations, then we Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46722287487400017612012-06-27T23:45:58.943-04:002012-06-27T23:45:58.943-04:00It's so strange... I completely disagree with ...It's so strange... I completely disagree with Ben on this one, but a phrase like "get a clue" almost entirely reversed my opinion.<br /><br />(sigh) <br /><br />I think that it's important to fight for an assumption of privacy on the public net -- rules against speaking about your work or prohibiting drinking outside of the job or any similar controlling actions from my employerAcademic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-55331745303817708952012-06-27T22:30:38.701-04:002012-06-27T22:30:38.701-04:00While to some extent, my complaints and hers are s...While to some extent, my complaints and hers are similar in tone, I think there's a key difference. I have gone to great lengths to ensure that nobody would find out who I am. She posted a picture of herself, used her first name and last initial and, likely, told somebody about her blog. (The odds of somebody associated with her school randomly finding hers among the millions of blogs are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-42752745416183108222012-06-27T22:01:16.358-04:002012-06-27T22:01:16.358-04:00Like you should be fired for participating here?
...Like you should be fired for participating here?<br /><br />Get a clue.The_Mythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10621186404597424842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-1832757577443902182012-06-27T21:56:14.767-04:002012-06-27T21:56:14.767-04:00We would have to say something that warranted a su...We would have to say something that warranted a subpoena first. Bitching about students isn't actionable, as the lawyers say. If somebody criticized a student by his real name, that would probably violate FERPA which could lead to trouble. <br /><br />There's really nothing that Blogger could do, although I'm sure they would cooperate if a court subpoenaed the name of the offendingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-53558306074750930432012-06-27T21:49:53.526-04:002012-06-27T21:49:53.526-04:00Academic freedom? There's nothing related to ...Academic freedom? There's nothing related to academics here. In this instance, her actions were analogous to anybody working in a business who publicly insults her customers online. She can and perhaps should be fired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-22138327330268797862012-06-27T21:40:32.130-04:002012-06-27T21:40:32.130-04:00I think it's a shame, since by and large I agr...I think it's a shame, since by and large I agree with her:<br /><br />"My students are out of control...They are rude, disengaged, lazy whiners. They curse, discuss drugs, talk back, argue for grades, complain about everything, fancy themselves entitled to whatever they desire, and are just generally annoying...The issue with my job is bigger than me. It's about freedom of speech. ItAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-18835441077536429092012-06-27T20:40:39.416-04:002012-06-27T20:40:39.416-04:00And people wonder why academic freedom, tenure, an...And people wonder why academic freedom, tenure, and rights to due process are important to teachers/professors.<br /><br />How is anything supposed to change when teachers can't speak honestly about their experiences?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13327984687823524531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-11228919741875431562012-06-27T17:28:52.542-04:002012-06-27T17:28:52.542-04:00Some students, Mr. Rango. Some students.
You obvi...<strong>Some</strong> students, Mr. Rango. <em>Some</em> students.<br /><br />You obviously have never taught in the real world, sir.introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-24651147951791309982012-06-27T16:00:00.307-04:002012-06-27T16:00:00.307-04:00Thank goodness she won't have to put up studen...Thank goodness she won't have to put up students she so clearly and publicly despises.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-52088180735098705432012-06-27T15:04:25.459-04:002012-06-27T15:04:25.459-04:00Is anyone surprised?
It was just a matter of time...Is anyone surprised?<br /><br />It was just a matter of time before they got rid of her. <br /><br />I hope she ends up with a HUGE settlement.The_Mythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10621186404597424842noreply@blogger.com