tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post1065509537443052397..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Rant of the Semester from TubaPlayingProf.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-7992579822865055432016-10-01T09:57:11.937-04:002016-10-01T09:57:11.937-04:00But if you have grants, they tend to forget all ab...But if you have grants, they tend to forget all about impact factors.Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12121425221364901282016-10-01T09:18:26.183-04:002016-10-01T09:18:26.183-04:00Thanks for the comments. Thanks for the comments. TubaPlayingProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06524484569241433720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-37789894551647471572016-10-01T09:05:22.099-04:002016-10-01T09:05:22.099-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-30157768395327815712016-10-01T08:38:39.878-04:002016-10-01T08:38:39.878-04:00Not if the page charges come from your grant. He ...Not if the page charges come from your grant. He won't care unless they come out of *his* budget.Rosencrantz Andor Guildensternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095512139776536635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-61633795121498581702016-09-30T21:45:21.517-04:002016-09-30T21:45:21.517-04:00Ah, but there is a cure for this, at least in my f...Ah, but there is a cure for this, at least in my field. Point out to the university administrator who is tormenting you that the journals with the highest impact factors have PAGE CHARGES. That will be the end of that.Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-7879797011527797692016-09-30T21:38:16.049-04:002016-09-30T21:38:16.049-04:00I co-wrote an article with a colleague in Europe. ...I co-wrote an article with a colleague in Europe. He's really sensitive about the Impact Factors of whatever journal we pick for submission. I guess his school really pays attention to it, and he was surprised my school doesn't seem to care. Middle-Aged and Morosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046076243513948921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-17611536564482963022016-09-30T11:04:39.400-04:002016-09-30T11:04:39.400-04:00Thanks! Interestingly, this doesn't affect me...Thanks! Interestingly, this doesn't affect me directly (mostly because research isn't part of my job, but also because I'm in a humanities discipline, and so made it through grad school and quite a few years of teaching without ever hearing about impact factors; I do have the sense, however, that this, along with the tendency to measure research success by grant dollars won, is Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-67309469464726815042016-09-30T10:31:34.067-04:002016-09-30T10:31:34.067-04:00Try with a few more links:
Sick of Impact Factors...Try with a few more links:<br /><br /><a href="http://occamstypewriter.org/scurry/2012/08/13/sick-of-impact-factors/" rel="nofollow">Sick of Impact Factors</a><br><br><a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2013/05/scientists-join-journal-editors-to-fight-impact-factor-abuse.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists join journal editors to fight impact-factor abuse</a><br><br><a href="http://Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-13376524271249121492016-09-30T10:29:41.356-04:002016-09-30T10:29:41.356-04:00I'll try once more, with fewer links.
Hate jo...I'll try once more, with fewer links.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/07/hate-journal-impact-factors-new-study-gives-you-one-more-reason" rel="nofollow">Hate journal impact factors? New study gives you one more reason</a><br><br><a href="http://acsh.org/news/2016/09/13/major-science-journals-eliminate-impact-factor-10151" rel="nofollow">Major Science Journals EliminateOgre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-1493469896076508662016-09-30T10:22:39.162-04:002016-09-30T10:22:39.162-04:00OK, third time was not a charm. It was there for a...OK, third time was not a charm. It was there for a minute or so, now it's gone again. I suspect an anti-spam Blogger bot.Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-72361484110898380002016-09-30T10:16:51.762-04:002016-09-30T10:16:51.762-04:00(Dear possible spam filtering algorithm, the follo...(Dear possible spam filtering algorithm, the following is not spam.)<br /><br /><a href="http://occamstypewriter.org/scurry/2012/08/13/sick-of-impact-factors/" rel="nofollow">Sick of Impact Factors</a><br /><br /><a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2013/05/scientists-join-journal-editors-to-fight-impact-factor-abuse.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists join journal editors to fight impact-factor Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-67488631136942415612016-09-30T10:12:25.617-04:002016-09-30T10:12:25.617-04:00I've tried commenting twice with links as prom...I've tried commenting twice with links as promised, but even though I see it published, when I return to the page, it's gone. I'll try again.Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-49211617777330820272016-09-30T10:08:15.296-04:002016-09-30T10:08:15.296-04:00Sick of Impact FactorsScientists join journal edit...<a href="http://occamstypewriter.org/scurry/2012/08/13/sick-of-impact-factors/" rel="nofollow">Sick of Impact Factors</a><br><br><a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2013/05/scientists-join-journal-editors-to-fight-impact-factor-abuse.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists join journal editors to fight impact-factor abuse</a><br><br><a href="http://science.sciencemag.org/content/340/6134/787.full" rel=Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-67950573818738333972016-09-30T09:02:40.248-04:002016-09-30T09:02:40.248-04:00Sick of Impact FactorsScientists join journal edit...<a href="http://occamstypewriter.org/scurry/2012/08/13/sick-of-impact-factors/" rel="nofollow">Sick of Impact Factors</a><br><br><a href="http://blogs.nature.com/news/2013/05/scientists-join-journal-editors-to-fight-impact-factor-abuse.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists join journal editors to fight impact-factor abuse</a><br><br><a href="http://science.sciencemag.org/content/340/6134/787.full" rel=Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60941230644153009812016-09-30T07:19:59.573-04:002016-09-30T07:19:59.573-04:00I'm with her, meaning Cassandra.I'm with her, meaning Cassandra.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-84478791507132893682016-09-29T23:46:01.318-04:002016-09-29T23:46:01.318-04:00How about, for demonstrating an impact factor that...How about, for demonstrating an impact factor that is truly meaningful to the provost, "donate" his car for Beyonce's next video? Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-75225544185819393542016-09-29T23:39:56.360-04:002016-09-29T23:39:56.360-04:00Cassandra, this is one of the few times I can reca...Cassandra, this is one of the few times I can recall that you've appeared mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.<br /><br />I dug up some links, which I'll (hopefully) curate and post in the morning. Long story short, journal impact factor is subject to gaming and skewing just as is admissions selectivity, and it was never intended to measure an individual paper or author.<br /><brOgre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6342172960045268942016-09-29T22:42:30.997-04:002016-09-29T22:42:30.997-04:00Just tell the administrator who is tormenting you ...Just tell the administrator who is tormenting you that at any university where this matters, doing research is much like that little dog that rides a bicycle in the circus. It's not that he does it well: what's remarkable is that he does it at all. Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-88321904356072431882016-09-29T17:12:33.036-04:002016-09-29T17:12:33.036-04:00Bravo, indeed.Bravo, indeed.Perfesser Slaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18121044187510013809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-23324876809643579182016-09-29T12:16:10.055-04:002016-09-29T12:16:10.055-04:00Administration by spreadsheet, because who the @#$...Administration by spreadsheet, because who the @#$! has time to understand what faculty actually do? Just give us something, anything, that can be reduced to a number, even if the processes that produced that number are complete bullsh!t. Because numbers don't lie, and can be compared (even if they resulted from counting apples, ozone particles, and wombats -- and the wombats ate most of Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-1226907045693956442016-09-29T11:51:26.316-04:002016-09-29T11:51:26.316-04:00Bravo.
All this impact factor stuff is a sneaky ...Bravo. <br /><br />All this impact factor stuff is a sneaky way to give admins more control in hiring and tenure decisions. We won't be fooled. Curly Charlannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6135661476552132682016-09-29T08:01:16.339-04:002016-09-29T08:01:16.339-04:00Dear provost,
The impact factor and acceptance ra...Dear provost,<br /><br />The impact factor and acceptance rate of these journals are more than appropriate for the emerging type of research that Junior Colleague is doing. You have my word on that as a professional and expert in that (or closely related) field. <br /><br />Sincerely,<br />Don't Fuck With Me.Ogre Proctor Hephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428431147495287413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-80655117269476835182016-09-29T02:46:32.510-04:002016-09-29T02:46:32.510-04:00So why don't you tell this to Dr. Dumbass? On ...So why don't you tell this to Dr. Dumbass? On Monday, I flat-out told a Program Review committee to their faces that assessment was pseudo-scientific nonsense the only apparent purpose of which was to give a bloated administration something to do. I thought I was going to be punished for it, and maybe I still will be, but yesterday they told the upper admin that our faculty do need release Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.com