tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post1933606056730929541..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Not a Monday Thirsty on FUNDING!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-9335904820660548222015-01-14T19:22:32.617-05:002015-01-14T19:22:32.617-05:00Unfortunately, serving as bouncer and pummeling co...Unfortunately, serving as bouncer and pummeling colleagues who become unruly during the sessions, particularly when the session Chair shows their time is up, is seldom one of these duties. That's strictly voluntary!Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-29745091007719265172015-01-14T19:20:58.966-05:002015-01-14T19:20:58.966-05:00Another way to defray costs for going to meetings ...Another way to defray costs for going to meetings is to encourage your students to volunteer to help run the conference. I've done this myself, and it's educational, at least the first time: typically they'll have you do something mundane such as stuff envelopes and hand them out with name tags at the registration desk, etc. At American Astronomical Society meetings, registration feesFroderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-818734449347405182015-01-14T12:14:00.561-05:002015-01-14T12:14:00.561-05:00My place regards itself as a "flagship R1&quo...My place regards itself as a "flagship R1", with a thriving graduate program. Paying for grad students to go to meetings is part of their educational mission, and I've always assumed there were pots of department/college money set aside for this.<br /><br />The other obvious source of funds for this are faculty research grants. Well, in my dept few of us have active NSF grants; I Peter Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00754472537710161295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-70037253212530571362015-01-13T18:53:03.593-05:002015-01-13T18:53:03.593-05:00Nice! That's better than my thought, which wa...Nice! That's better than my thought, which was to do the gofundme (or similar), then get in touch with a local reporter or two, in hopes that that would embarrass someone into shaking loose some money from somewhere. <br /><br />I think you mentioned your college is a self-identified Christian one; does it have a denominational affiliation? If so, the national denomination might be anotherContingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-29231322135758788132015-01-13T16:18:00.501-05:002015-01-13T16:18:00.501-05:00I'm on it! :) Alumni Director has already pled...I'm on it! :) Alumni Director has already pledged $500 just from his budget and is continuing to seek funds. Thanks for the suggestion.The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-51502692071811602992015-01-13T16:16:54.644-05:002015-01-13T16:16:54.644-05:00Already shot down there (Academic Dean and Dean of...Already shot down there (Academic Dean and Dean of Students both said "not in our budget"). So sad.The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-83644586208432310442015-01-13T15:33:24.588-05:002015-01-13T15:33:24.588-05:00Our Dean of Student Services seems to have money f...Our Dean of Student Services seems to have money for students to attend these things -- she funded the snacks and beverages for the student members of our book club; I funded the same for faculty/staff and community members.Cross the silo and give it a shot...Walt Lessunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06543175448330140638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-1031256850168884692015-01-13T02:17:02.009-05:002015-01-13T02:17:02.009-05:00I know this all too well. For the exploration of s...I know this all too well. For the exploration of space, Kennedy both talked the talk and walked the walk: he increased NASA's budget by over 50% each year he was in office. Nixon and the Bushes all talked the talk only, as does Obama.<br /><br />More to the point: Perhaps your alumni director might start a campaign to tell your alumni? It's never easy to get alumni to donate, but when Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-4064969319796646702015-01-13T01:34:47.456-05:002015-01-13T01:34:47.456-05:00Congrats on your one students who is outshining ev...Congrats on your one students who is outshining everyone. <br /><br />Everyone agrees that it's a good thing for our students (we're an undergrad institute) to be doing these presentation at national and international conferences, and yet, when it comes to funding, we're at a loss BECAUSE we aren't set up like places that support that regularly. If it were within driving distance,The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-14344135371129728562015-01-13T01:32:24.099-05:002015-01-13T01:32:24.099-05:00Yeah, I need to start cultivating relationships wi...Yeah, I need to start cultivating relationships with "someone, somewhere, higher up, with actual purse strings in their hands..." <br />The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-48420778796137847722015-01-13T01:30:14.551-05:002015-01-13T01:30:14.551-05:00Wait, grad students but not adjuncts? SMH.Wait, grad students but not adjuncts? SMH.The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46963071019547094052015-01-13T01:27:59.680-05:002015-01-13T01:27:59.680-05:00We have no Foundation. One person on campus has a ...We have no Foundation. One person on campus has a grant that she got on her own. We don't have an office that helps with that.The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-45868315924835892702015-01-13T01:27:20.550-05:002015-01-13T01:27:20.550-05:00Foundation?Foundation?The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-11102844876581377112015-01-12T23:09:13.169-05:002015-01-12T23:09:13.169-05:00CC: see if your Foundation has returned overhead o...CC: see if your Foundation has returned overhead on grants. One of the best parts of this is that they need not necessarily be your grants.Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-16945349981334595892015-01-12T23:07:28.685-05:002015-01-12T23:07:28.685-05:00Hey, Reg, stop taunting Cal. As a Canadian, he can...Hey, Reg, stop taunting Cal. As a Canadian, he can't help it, you know.Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-40722468291791241622015-01-12T23:03:46.343-05:002015-01-12T23:03:46.343-05:00One of my students is so good, I want her to hit u...One of my students is so good, I want her to hit up the physics department or the honors college she belongs to so she can show her poster at a second meeting. A bunch of our undergraduate women will be using funding from SPS (the Society of Physics Students) to go to the Women in Physics meeting of the American Physical Society in San Luis Obispo, only 3 hours drive away. (That's considered Froderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-53375159654311343272015-01-12T22:47:09.365-05:002015-01-12T22:47:09.365-05:00We have Faculty Sponsored Student Research Awards ...We have Faculty Sponsored Student Research Awards of up to $1k available annually even here at Fresno State, and my students do use them to present real posters at American Astronomical Society meetings (and nothing to do with sheep). I know for a fact that Dartmouth and Yale also have similar pots of money. Your administration is a bunch of cheap-ass bastards with no idea of what's necessaryFroderick Frankenstien from Fresnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653942918068535424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87120939341793398652015-01-12T19:45:54.976-05:002015-01-12T19:45:54.976-05:00I've never heard of conference travel funds fo...I've never heard of conference travel funds for undergrads, beyond a token amount ($50-100) with a special program with a large exposure component (Our Undergrads Are So Good That They Present Papers At Academic Conferences!), or where an undergrad is doing a 4th yr thesis project and their thesis supervisor pays for them to go. Someone, somewhere, higher up, with actual purse strings in Prof Poopieheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997969128824319914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-41885316612812607372015-01-12T17:27:32.959-05:002015-01-12T17:27:32.959-05:00We have a small fund for undergrad travel and expe...We have a small fund for undergrad travel and expenses that can be accessed after the fact, but all of the responsibility falls to a faculy mentor who has to also then support the conference or whatever with a report to an admin committee. It's encouraged, but never used.Reg W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050692903794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-11742275754168642292015-01-12T17:26:01.864-05:002015-01-12T17:26:01.864-05:00Now we're cooking. A good old fashioned throwd...Now we're cooking. A good old fashioned throwdown. I never liked the thirsty thing, mostly because didn't come up with it.Reg W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992983794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-18199941865775622062015-01-12T17:21:13.878-05:002015-01-12T17:21:13.878-05:00Oh, everyone knows how petty and controlling I am....Oh, everyone knows how petty and controlling I am. Being a Canadian, it's all I have besides back bacon, hockey, and socialism. Nobody needs to use the Thirsty thing. Please. In fact I forbid it! And any other tropes that come from RYS!!!Compound Calicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00059155949950433688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-21235727823943586462015-01-12T17:10:29.497-05:002015-01-12T17:10:29.497-05:00I like the locution because it connects us with th...I like the locution because it connects us with the previous site. Not even Cal would be pissed off about it. I know he takes great pride in the fact that this page still exists, many years after the original site closed. But I've always assumed, and I'm quite sure of this, that he's mostly happy we continue on in any way, with or without the Thirstys. College Miseryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01371354682300032653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46503187930281536832015-01-12T17:04:15.800-05:002015-01-12T17:04:15.800-05:00Call it a Hungry and really piss people off!Call it a Hungry and really piss people off!Rosencrantz Andor Guildensternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095512139776536635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-13785108651347491592015-01-12T16:29:02.587-05:002015-01-12T16:29:02.587-05:00I didn't think of reaching out to the communit...I didn't think of reaching out to the community. The local Kiwanis club or local businesses might be willing to sponsor us if we wear a t-shirt with their names printed on it or something. I'll look into that. The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-26011748576853318572015-01-12T16:27:23.518-05:002015-01-12T16:27:23.518-05:00It's clearly something we need to work on gett...It's clearly something we need to work on getting set up. This is strictly undergrad, and admin is all FOR students going, but not when it comes to supporting them with funding.<br /><br />So calling it a Not-Thirsty on Monday doesn't work, huh? ;o)The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.com