tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post2667314822958692960..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Alan from Apex With a Query About His...Cough...Friend. No, Really. Srsly.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-59901055117196081362013-04-29T10:00:18.801-04:002013-04-29T10:00:18.801-04:00Sorry to chime in like this, but Wylodmayer has it...Sorry to chime in like this, but Wylodmayer has it basically correct. Apply for both. If you're offered one, wait as long as you can if you haven't heard from the other, but take the bird in the hand. The thing that will matter most to future employers (aside from where you did your Ph.D., which you can't change now) are publications, evidence that you can teach competently (decent Doctor BPDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077311480386412339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-77573710783763022152013-04-29T05:41:54.170-04:002013-04-29T05:41:54.170-04:00Well, I was assuming this correspondent doesn'...Well, I was assuming this correspondent doesn't have any pubs yet and needs time to get a few. Admittedly, I did not check this first. But I figured that ought to be first priority, which is why I suggested the most secure job. Without some time to research and get those pubs - even mediocre ones - the relative reputations of the two institutions he's choosing between won't matter a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-34672804184470040872013-04-28T23:45:43.907-04:002013-04-28T23:45:43.907-04:00No offense taken; for one thing, it's not actu...No offense taken; for one thing, it's not actually a career, and for another, it wasn't deliberately chosen, more stumbled into (with the thought that it would be temporary, and without a clearly defined get-out point, or plan B. I'm probably past the former, but don't have a plausible-enough version of the latter to know in which direction to jump). <br /><br />For whatever it&#Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46009328686273459482013-04-28T22:31:14.665-04:002013-04-28T22:31:14.665-04:00The comments and ideas and alternative perspective...The comments and ideas and alternative perspectives are exceptionally appreciated by my friend, who is very much aware that renewability is incredibly and amazingly valuable in the current market.<br /><br />Some clarifications... I'll call my friend Dr. Doe... Dr. Doe also thought I was a bit harsh on Losttown in my description. The location is out of the way, but not undesirably so. Dr.Alan From Apexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01366176105581248496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-26542103246673181222013-04-28T20:34:04.157-04:002013-04-28T20:34:04.157-04:00We wouldn't hire anyone with zero pubs either-...We wouldn't hire anyone with zero pubs either--at least I don't think so! But an article or two in so-so journals would be fine by us. Just a sign that the applicant is professionally engaged. StellafromSparksburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17584701718285662953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-3166920710982499082013-04-28T17:49:21.987-04:002013-04-28T17:49:21.987-04:00Tell Losttown College that you love them, but you ...Tell Losttown College that you love them, but you need a two-year contract. If you have the Big-State-Satellite offer, then use it as leverage. Southern Bubba, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992903794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12523338883068927382013-04-28T17:31:23.042-04:002013-04-28T17:31:23.042-04:00Another vote for considering what you ultimately w...Another vote for considering what you ultimately want. I've never been on an academic search committee (I'm a dozen years into the close equivalent of the University of Somewhere at Else job). However, I've had (and overheard) enough conversations at conferences with people with jobs (TT or otherwise) at Losttown College equivalents to know that there are very real differences, Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-24672403757085834902013-04-28T17:11:15.783-04:002013-04-28T17:11:15.783-04:00Stella brings up an excellent point, but I should ...Stella brings up an excellent point, but I should note that in my field at least, even most SLACs are winnowing applications by who has publications and who does not. It was confided in me that a recently-minted fellow from my old grad program lost (though narrowly) a SLAC job this past cycle because he had no pubs, despite having an excellent service record and a fair variety of classes under Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-54486111971474973322013-04-28T16:16:59.042-04:002013-04-28T16:16:59.042-04:00I'm with Stella: What kind of a job do you ult...I'm with Stella: What kind of a job do you ultimately want? If it's to work at a SLAC, go with that. If it's research, go with the other one (even if it's all service; those are the courses that will get you hired elsewhere because that's marketable). The SLAC job sounds promising as a place that WILL open up into a full time position, but you sound like you absolutely hate The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-29944049499868089882013-04-28T15:55:24.706-04:002013-04-28T15:55:24.706-04:00In my field, U of Somewhere at Else would look muc...In my field, U of Somewhere at Else would look much better on a CV when applying for a TT job, since it would be presumed (rightly or wrongly) to have more people trying to stay active in research. As long as the job was held for no more than (say) three years (before getting/applying for a TT elsewhere), it would look just like another postdoc. If your friend managed to publish something good inPeter Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00754472537710161295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-49147681816853301392013-04-28T15:29:38.508-04:002013-04-28T15:29:38.508-04:00I think a better question to ask would be what kin...I think a better question to ask would be what kind of job you want. The "default setting" seems to be that everyone assumes we all want a job at a research university. If you do, then definitely take the renewable position with only service courses (which you've probably taught before), give those courses as little attention as possible, and focus on your research for a couple of StellafromSparksburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17584701718285662953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-39962848066958871182013-04-28T11:24:10.639-04:002013-04-28T11:24:10.639-04:00I would agree with Wylodmayer. Do you already have...I would agree with Wylodmayer. Do you already have reasonable teaching experience? If so, the brand value of the schools wouldn't make much difference, so selecting the job based on what you can gain in the next year would be smart. The better salary and renewable service position would be a good branch to apply for TT jobs. You could still apply to the SLAC position this next year if it in Bisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02025209722326662833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12793343587542278302013-04-28T04:43:31.652-04:002013-04-28T04:43:31.652-04:00I'd say the two schools are a wash in terms of...I'd say the two schools are a wash in terms of reputation, at least without knowing more. What you might focus on more are: (a) are there faculty members at one of the schools whose good opinion of you would be more useful for networking, and/or (b) which one will offer more time and/or resources for publishing. Without knowing the answers to either (a) or (b), or assuming they're a wash,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com