tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post2888115733768648593..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Nobby From North Dakota On The Tech Tip.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-2216643781655989712013-04-30T15:49:33.586-04:002013-04-30T15:49:33.586-04:00I used to think that it didn't matter, but I&#...I used to think that it didn't matter, but I've since run into some studies that shows that it bothers the hell out of the students when other students are texting or surfing. It really gets on their nerves. I can't really tell what they're doing, because I'm at the front of the class.<br /><br />So now I tell students that laptops are okay for taking notes, but that there areMerely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-23187673979392450872013-04-30T15:49:12.828-04:002013-04-30T15:49:12.828-04:00I used to think that it didn't matter, but I&#...I used to think that it didn't matter, but I've since run into some studies that shows that it bothers the hell out of the students when other students are texting or surfing. It really gets on their nerves. I can't really tell what they're doing, because I'm at the front of the class.<br /><br />So now I tell students that laptops are okay for taking notes, but that there areMerely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6362989625600704672013-02-22T01:57:38.244-05:002013-02-22T01:57:38.244-05:00@Frod: Heh - you may be right about the wasted pri...@Frod: Heh - you may be right about the wasted privileges of adulthood. And I get what you're saying, I do. I don't want you to think that I'm just blowing off your point of view. I've been thinking about it. But I just don't know if I buy into "if they're not learning, you're not really teaching." I might accept something like "if the good ones aren'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-52662674095916673692013-02-21T11:41:32.822-05:002013-02-21T11:41:32.822-05:00excellent idea!excellent idea!Academic Charlotte Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06617435890922621735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-61345911932110222612013-02-21T11:26:34.329-05:002013-02-21T11:26:34.329-05:00You would think that I should be able to do that. ...You would think that I should be able to do that. Or that when he had to talk to the administrator that s/he would kick him out. My dean told the other admin to "tell this student if he does it again, then he will be removed from class." So, sadly I have no power to kick anyone out. I am actually waiting until he has had the college santioned number of absences, then I can drop him.Academic Charlotte Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06617435890922621735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-76062354919883774982013-02-21T05:33:11.865-05:002013-02-21T05:33:11.865-05:00@Wylodmayer: Well, I think that abandoning in loco...@Wylodmayer: Well, I think that abandoning in loco parentis was a big mistake. Most undergraduates so clearly do not deserve the privilege of being treated as adults. Just look at what they do with it! <br /><br />You might think that they're entitled to be treated as adults only because they're over 18, which in the eyes of the law makes them adults. I'll point out that they can'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-74408736106888011112013-02-21T05:23:35.437-05:002013-02-21T05:23:35.437-05:00@CC: Then I TRIPLE dog-dare you too, to invite som...@CC: Then I TRIPLE dog-dare you too, to invite some parents to one of your classes, and let them see what you allow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-20715639803729702382013-02-21T03:11:26.224-05:002013-02-21T03:11:26.224-05:00It might also bear noting that I don't think I...It might also bear noting that I don't think I'm there to teach them how to be good students; I think learning to be good students is on them. That may be an idiosyncratic view, I realize. I think I am there to present material and aid in understanding it, but that's it. Again, I realize perhaps I'm weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-65557312428444582992013-02-21T03:07:51.639-05:002013-02-21T03:07:51.639-05:00I am an adult - I'm just not a mommy or a dadd... I am an adult - I'm just not a mommy or a daddy to the little shits. There's a difference. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-10405673261574866662013-02-21T02:54:02.806-05:002013-02-21T02:54:02.806-05:00Oh no they're not adults! Adults are as adults...Oh no they're not adults! Adults are as adults do. You're supposed to be the adult here. Be one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-7277859315704558842013-02-20T23:50:38.914-05:002013-02-20T23:50:38.914-05:00So many people keep saying that fellow students te...So many people keep saying that fellow students texting et al distracted them when they were in classes that I'm starting to think maybe I'm underestimating the potential for distraction because (a) no one was texting when I was an undergrad and (b) I never gave two shits what any of my fellow students were doing unless it was noisy. Perhaps I'll have to rethink this, but I still Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-82623884380240138612013-02-20T22:32:41.442-05:002013-02-20T22:32:41.442-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-50205772836516896402013-02-20T20:16:43.743-05:002013-02-20T20:16:43.743-05:00In cases where I've ignored or not noticed the...In cases where I've ignored or not noticed the back row, for example, I've had students ask if I could be more diligent about 'policing' the texting because they get distracted by their peers' texting or their own temptation to text when they think they can. I get distracted by it, too, if I notice someone avidly texting. The blinking light on a phone (or just the fact that The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12771405546685016142013-02-20T18:05:41.071-05:002013-02-20T18:05:41.071-05:00I don't know if it distracts other students, b...I don't know if it distracts other students, but it distracts me when I'm lecturing or demonstrating. <br /><br />I have strict policies, and points are deducted. Student have come to take this seriously, and I have very few cellphone/facebook disruptions. There are sometimes special circumstances, and I use common sense and courtesy to deal with these. Karen Ackoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527412523732265688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-44333263714783052092013-02-20T16:59:50.097-05:002013-02-20T16:59:50.097-05:00Ah, but you don't have to memorize all the nam...Ah, but you don't have to memorize all the names: just a few.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-58261656079200789142013-02-20T16:57:43.138-05:002013-02-20T16:57:43.138-05:00You should be allowed to cancel that kid's reg...You should be allowed to cancel that kid's registration for the class. If someone acted that way in a fine restaurant or hotel, that person would be refused service and told to leave, and security called if they won't leave voluntarily. We should have the same rights: they don't pay us enough to take crap like this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-33159823088982817422013-02-20T14:54:50.157-05:002013-02-20T14:54:50.157-05:00Ah. I have a tech zone in the FRONT, where everyon...Ah. I have a tech zone in the FRONT, where everyone (and I) can see them, and they behave BEAUTIFULLY. In the front, they use the technology appropriately; in the back they are actually more distracting, because they nudge and whisper and giggle. And in a dark-ish room, flickering light BEHIND YOU can be more disconcerting that flickering light in front of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-31409604769492426772013-02-20T14:44:04.812-05:002013-02-20T14:44:04.812-05:00Has anyone tried a phone/computer zone? I hate po...Has anyone tried a phone/computer zone? I hate policing the texters-this semester when I told a young man to turn off his phone he told me "Fuck you, Fuck your class." and thankfully left. But it makes me weary. So I wonder if allowing texting/laptops in the back row only? So the lights/screens should be behind people and less distracting. Academic Charlotte Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06617435890922621735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-58733102965578923112013-02-20T14:01:16.624-05:002013-02-20T14:01:16.624-05:00What about the name memorization? That's alway...What about the name memorization? That's always the hard part for me.introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-50270640722865412962013-02-20T13:07:12.619-05:002013-02-20T13:07:12.619-05:00BB, that's an easy one. Blame the professor. W...BB, that's an easy one. Blame the professor. Why not? They blame the teachers in K-12. What makes us any different?<br /><br />I had two texting right in front of me yesterday, which was also my first day back in the classroom after being out for a kidney stone. I didn't say anything because I was trying to stay "up" and on-task, but it really did burn my chrome.<br /><br />I BurntChromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06055976331443607569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27733970453817645342013-02-20T11:27:54.601-05:002013-02-20T11:27:54.601-05:00Frod, that's an interesting dare. Would the p...Frod, that's an interesting dare. Would the parents blame the professor for letting students surf the web or would the blame the students for not behaving. More and more, I'm scared to find out the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-64715729593549789072013-02-20T09:47:45.906-05:002013-02-20T09:47:45.906-05:00My dream is to pull off the schtick of one of my u...My dream is to pull off the schtick of one of my undergrad history Proffies at Dragass University:<br /><br />The Proffie: Striking man - 6'7 inches, 165 lb, ice blue eye, eye patch on the other. Too tall for his clothes, slightly short sleeves and pants.<br /><br />Day 1- Straight lecture (no notes, a single watch-check halfway through, nails the final statement as the class bell rings.<br /Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-20952173863509612252013-02-20T05:11:57.745-05:002013-02-20T05:11:57.745-05:00@Proffie: Well, you can always shoot them with you...@Proffie: Well, you can always shoot them with your pistol. Just take care that you're not in an airplane!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60597825403408698942013-02-20T03:32:51.051-05:002013-02-20T03:32:51.051-05:00@Wylodmayer: I double dog-dare you to invite some ...@Wylodmayer: I double dog-dare you to invite some parents to your classes, to see the crap you let your students pull, because you "don't care."<br /><br />Indeed, I TRIPLE dog-dare you!!! (OOO!)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-20422659053086061862013-02-20T03:17:47.176-05:002013-02-20T03:17:47.176-05:00Well, I can certainly see how a discussion-based c...Well, I can certainly see how a discussion-based class would be more than usually harmed by students engaged in texting, Facebooking, etc. I also agree that it's not alright to allow students to be openly rude; what I am unpersuaded of, as yet, is that this is rude simpliciter, rather than rude only given certain stipulations on the part of the professor, which I have not made. I'm open Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com