tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post3082316124331301811..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Beryl from Bentonville Sends in an Early Thirsty: How Much Do You Work?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-62983092973826414592010-12-12T22:10:43.577-05:002010-12-12T22:10:43.577-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.CDPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12817680759277860662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-44443348046913671592010-12-02T22:29:16.406-05:002010-12-02T22:29:16.406-05:00I know I'm getting into this very late, but I ...I know I'm getting into this very late, but I want to add an observation I made earlier this semester. My division coordinator works too much.<br /><br />The man arrives on campus by 7:30 a.m. I know that is true because I couldn't sleep one night and there he was, already down to business, on campus. In the meantime, I returned home and went back to bed before going back to the officePrissy Profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581053595119915513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87272593710674241772010-12-01T09:08:24.498-05:002010-12-01T09:08:24.498-05:00@Slave,
I'd say it's MOSTLY systemic. I k...@Slave,<br /><br />I'd say it's MOSTLY systemic. I know a few adjunct slaves and they're eminently qualified for much better jobs, as I'm sure you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-89689134585264253792010-12-01T08:40:14.907-05:002010-12-01T08:40:14.907-05:00@Reg -
No, it isn't your fault at all. Some o...@Reg - <br />No, it isn't your fault at all. Some of the blame is systemic, but it is mostly my fault.AdjunctSlavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025851491072402087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-24489799876768253732010-12-01T06:42:19.465-05:002010-12-01T06:42:19.465-05:00@Monkey
That sounds like you're suggesting I ...@Monkey<br /><br />That sounds like you're suggesting I don't. Why wouldn't I? They're in my program. I am their mentor. Their success is my success. I want them to finish here, get great jobs, and prosper. So, yes, I treat them very well. But I also teach them what I know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47587854604564182072010-11-30T22:27:04.277-05:002010-11-30T22:27:04.277-05:00Reg, I hope you treat your grad students well.Reg, I hope you treat your grad students well.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-48621988653679694752010-11-30T17:58:42.939-05:002010-11-30T17:58:42.939-05:00Slave,
That makes it sound like it's my fault...Slave,<br /><br />That makes it sound like it's my fault. It's not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-39253580578376578682010-11-30T17:38:28.479-05:002010-11-30T17:38:28.479-05:00I teach about 15 classes per year (of about 15 stu...I teach about 15 classes per year (of about 15 students per class on average), usually get in some published research, and earn less than a quarter what Reg does. 'Nuff said.AdjunctSlavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025851491072402087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-1764143420636774372010-11-30T16:40:48.963-05:002010-11-30T16:40:48.963-05:00I think it is probably difficult for a lot of peop...I think it is probably difficult for a lot of people to come up with an exact number, because so much of our work varies seasonally.<br /><br />I teach a 2-2 (3 undergrad, one grad) two of which are lectures and two are seminars. That's 6 hours a week in class, plus three hours of prep (a lot less for lectures, sometimes more for seminars, especially grad seminars. I get TAs for my lecture Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197015065747868297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-37282968149236269712010-11-30T14:54:15.471-05:002010-11-30T14:54:15.471-05:00I know Wisconsin Will, and without giving too much...I know Wisconsin Will, and without giving too much identifying information, you can all rest assured that Will is worried about publishing because he is currently unemployed in the teaching arena. And prefers it that way.<br /><br />I'm sure he'll put up a big fight denying that, bragging about his R1 institution, but rest assured, that is his situation.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-57741314636593417452010-11-30T14:31:22.677-05:002010-11-30T14:31:22.677-05:00(For background, and in response to ELS and Will, ...(For background, and in response to ELS and Will, I teach a 4/4 all-writing-intensive load on a multi-year renewable but non-TT contract at an R2 state school, with a salary of just over 40K. I am not required to do either research or service, but would like to do both, and do some of the latter when I can find/make the time. My TT colleagues teach mostly 2/2 loads, perform both research and Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-31316760013527953652010-11-30T14:19:05.621-05:002010-11-30T14:19:05.621-05:00Who are these new people? I don't know half th...Who are these new people? I don't know half the names in these comments. Somebody is pulling our chain.<br /><br />Reg W. isn't real. neither is Wimpy Will.<br /><br />Somebody is bored.<br /><br />I know the names of all 34 people who read this slowly dying site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-39517301290142969422010-11-30T12:23:08.778-05:002010-11-30T12:23:08.778-05:00Before I realized how much fuckery the university ...Before I realized how much fuckery the university was getting away with by paying me next to nothing for my youthful enthusiasm, where TT and T'ed faculty put zero effort into their classes, I worked long crazy hours. After I clued in and got bitter enough to participate on fora like this, my hours dropped off dramatically. By then my preps were done, and I wouldn't add anything new to myDr. Crankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544814759723000405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-63222255219572877682010-11-30T12:06:00.490-05:002010-11-30T12:06:00.490-05:001,173 community colleges
http://www.aacc.nche.edu...1,173 community colleges<br /><br />http://www.aacc.nche.edu/AboutCC/Pages/fastfacts.aspxEnglishDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12046114978214062491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-76005178394324069782010-11-30T11:49:46.125-05:002010-11-30T11:49:46.125-05:00This should be easier to find than this, but does ...This should be easier to find than this, but does anyone know the number of junior or community colleges versus regular ones in the US?<br /><br />I suspect that are more of the former, but I'm having trouble finding anything other than a <b>total</b> number of 4000 colleges in the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-37535664759521709512010-11-30T11:44:27.432-05:002010-11-30T11:44:27.432-05:00It does seem like a community college board, with ...It does seem like a community college board, with about 20 active posters.<br /><br />Not that there's anything wrong with that.<br /><br />There are a good number of commenters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47229936224365475892010-11-30T11:25:09.645-05:002010-11-30T11:25:09.645-05:00Oh, don't Will and Reg W have it easy? Good fo...Oh, don't Will and Reg W have it easy? Good for them.<br /><br />If you have misery to share, please do so. But don't cast aspersions because so many of us have heavier (5/5 for me) loads than you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-30815466068221833882010-11-30T11:23:47.989-05:002010-11-30T11:23:47.989-05:00I've been lurking here since September or so, ...I've been lurking here since September or so, and it appears to me that many of you must be community college teachers. The kind of course load and on-campus hours suggest a much different experience than what I and my colleagues face.<br /><br />I have no doubt that a 4/4 or 3/3 load must be very hard to deal with, but I just can't weigh in on many of the complaints here because they areAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-5301473967268307112010-11-30T11:13:51.825-05:002010-11-30T11:13:51.825-05:00I'm dying for someone to explain a 10 hour day...I'm dying for someone to explain a 10 hour day on campus, or 5 of them. I truly don't understand what it is you're doing for 10 hours. I mean no disrespect, but what takes all that time?<br /><br />Of course when a new class starts up, there's a lot of prep. Yes, you probably spend 70-90 minutes in class maybe 2-4 times each day. Office hour. Maybe a meeting.<br /><br />BUT EVERY Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-227742913586552892010-11-30T11:12:34.062-05:002010-11-30T11:12:34.062-05:00I currently have about 14 hours of required contac...I currently have about 14 hours of required contact time per week, with about 1 more hour of extra prep. time (I do most of my prep. during the unattended office hours). <br /><br />If you add in tutoring, I work about 24 hours a week.<br /><br />I can grade all of my classes' essays in 3 hours total, so that doesn't add much.<br /><br />As for those who prep for 3 hours per 75-minute No Cookieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17722547269501795463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-52995898357009027582010-11-30T08:34:07.944-05:002010-11-30T08:34:07.944-05:001. I take Saturday off, in general.
2. Five to sev...1. I take Saturday off, in general.<br />2. Five to seven hours on Sunday.<br />3. T/R = 9 - 10 hours per.<br />4. MW = 8 - 9 hours per.<br />5. F = if I'm honest, 6 hours. <br /><br />Total per average academic week = 49, plus independent work...so maybe 55? <br /><br />Summer work = Seven weeks of 12 to 14 hour days (study abroad) + another three to four weeks of 8 hour days. <br /><br />cmthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814447289455034068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-17675784489288622692010-11-29T22:54:15.158-05:002010-11-29T22:54:15.158-05:00I think it's a good time to remember how diffe...I think it's a good time to remember how different salaries are within the academy. Check these anectdotal stats.<br /><br /><a href="http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com/2009/08/money-real-numbers-completely_2153.html" rel="nofollow">Salary reports.</a><br /><a href="http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com/2009/08/for-ruining-my-day-some-salary_3245.html" rel="nofollow">More salary reports.</a>W.T. Pfefferlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07522687306482305195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-73332353680877464812010-11-29T22:15:01.732-05:002010-11-29T22:15:01.732-05:00Well, honestly, I COULD work about 20 hours a week...Well, honestly, I COULD work about 20 hours a week during the semester and get everything done. I teach 4/4. 12 in the classroom, speed grading in a very disciplined fashion through my unattended office hours, and the other two hours scattered over some odd extra work like the occasional committee and stuff. No time for prep because I'd just be teaching the same shit over and over. No StellafromSparksburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17584701718285662953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-25579819828287294472010-11-29T22:08:43.751-05:002010-11-29T22:08:43.751-05:00Monday through Thursday, I'm on campus from 8:...Monday through Thursday, I'm on campus from 8:00 a.m. until at least 5:00 p.m. (it's later some nights). I'm at a CC where I teach a 5/5 load. I also serve on two college-wide committees, two department committees, and I'm required to do professional development that amounts to a few hours every other week. Fridays are frequently consumed by committee work and other things the Great Lakes Gretahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08101613060478193833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-15820477806360370382010-11-29T21:51:31.431-05:002010-11-29T21:51:31.431-05:00I am completing my 27th year, and am now chair. Th...I am completing my 27th year, and am now chair. That means 4 hours per week of teaching (30-50 students), plus 10 or so hours of grading, 5 hours with graduate students, another 5 for meetings, and 20 or so for paperwork and putting out fires.<br /><br />As an untenured faculty member, I taught 3 classes of 35-45 per semester, with a total of about 25 different courses in the first 7 years, for Paddingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07952088638231881617noreply@blogger.com