tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post4181805734720550879..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Anyone?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-28450129893548155552011-09-26T12:19:22.886-04:002011-09-26T12:19:22.886-04:00We've had electronic evals in place for online...We've had electronic evals in place for online classes for many years. We were lucky if we got 5 evals per class, and many had none. When my tenure packet went up, my chairperson actually had to put a memo in with it stating that no, I didn't have a retention rate of only 2-25% in my online classes, but that was just how many evals I got due to the system. I know the same thing is goingEnglishDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12046114978214062491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-32017547504971433732011-09-25T21:24:48.644-04:002011-09-25T21:24:48.644-04:00@EnglishDoc: I wouldn't worry (though I contin...@EnglishDoc: I wouldn't worry (though I continue to be horrified that you're somehow supposed to be responsible for keeping them from dropping). My experience with online evals (to which my institution is slowly transitioning; at the moment courses with an online component -- hybrid or online -- have online evals; f2f courses still have paper ones) is similar to Faris': the return Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-25692778087206956932011-09-25T21:21:12.903-04:002011-09-25T21:21:12.903-04:00Englishdoc: it is such a farce, the online eval t...Englishdoc: it is such a farce, the online eval thing. We are also evaluated by those who have dropped. It sounds bad in theory, but actually, no one evaluates you much. Like every semester (remember, I don't remind them) I get MAYBE two evaluations total. And I am not unique. None of us spend much time begging them. Dean Dad (anyone here follow him) has written about the whole prize Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-19198023089401740502011-09-25T19:10:34.231-04:002011-09-25T19:10:34.231-04:00Yes. Three-year cycle, and we are required to writ...Yes. Three-year cycle, and we are required to write comments about them in a self-evaluation. I also usually have the Little Dears write a bit halfway through the semester about my pace (re: ease of note-taking) and what they appreciate or wish would change. <br /><br />Some people discount the so-called objective parts, and I understand why, but I look for consistent patterns. If everyone in Eskarinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14854383335265386899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-77377552737081521182011-09-25T16:27:41.237-04:002011-09-25T16:27:41.237-04:00every class.
via the school's lms.
return perc...every class.<br />via the school's lms.<br />return percentage vanishingly low, even with prizes offered to students by admin.Iyrrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06272150097841691708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-48264904633760903492011-09-25T15:47:39.543-04:002011-09-25T15:47:39.543-04:00Can't happen here. We can pick our semesters ...Can't happen here. We can pick our semesters and classes, but it happens at least once per year here. <br /><br />No one, however, can make me read them.Great Lakes Gretahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08101613060478193833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-49327440597670240442011-09-25T14:33:28.166-04:002011-09-25T14:33:28.166-04:00Oh, and I forgot the best part: students who have ...Oh, and I forgot the best part: students who have dropped the class will also be able to evaluate us. Yes, given that all the questions are based on total class performance, that's a brilliant idea so we can "capture" the reasons they dropped somehow.EnglishDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12046114978214062491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-14293701897385499062011-09-25T14:32:06.326-04:002011-09-25T14:32:06.326-04:00They are mandatory for every class, every semester...They are mandatory for every class, every semester. I try to use the comments as something to improve my teaching. Some terms I actually get good ideas from my students and make changes as a result. The numbers are stupid and meaningless and therefore what administration cares about. Many of the questions are poorly worded so that the students don't even know exactly what they're EnglishDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12046114978214062491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12501419543950323692011-09-25T10:28:49.061-04:002011-09-25T10:28:49.061-04:00Oh God, no. Nobody around here would play the vict...Oh God, no. Nobody around here would play the victim card.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-77888770181486778642011-09-25T08:23:03.919-04:002011-09-25T08:23:03.919-04:00I posted yesterday....but it's not me who is c...I posted yesterday....but it's not me who is concerned about having her entry get buried. It got comments so people scrolled. I was just happy to see so many posts!<br /><br />Back to the topic at hand...I get evaluated like everyone else here, and like some, I may or may not read them. They always say the same thing...and its always a mix of wow great course and some whining about things Dr. Crankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544814759723000405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-16535715002393744002011-09-25T05:36:00.460-04:002011-09-25T05:36:00.460-04:00I really take issue with the whole electronic eval...I really take issue with the whole electronic eval thing going on at my school. Also, I have tenure and all my promotions. So I just don't remind them about it. Ever. <br /><br />Therefore, yes, I often don't get evaluated at all. The background to this story is that they started the whole electronic evaluation thing just before my last promotion, and I was told I needed such and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-773900142136056702011-09-25T03:54:31.506-04:002011-09-25T03:54:31.506-04:00Evals are mandatory in all classes where I teach. ...Evals are mandatory in all classes where I teach. No escape. I actually read them and look for constructive critique or praise. I try to ignore the quantitative section where students evaluate on a scale of 1-5 a bunch of measures. It is a bit stupid because often they fill in numbers - which then affect my average "score" - even where "does not apply" clearly applies. I pay AdjunctSlavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025851491072402087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87921156234669807412011-09-25T02:46:54.179-04:002011-09-25T02:46:54.179-04:00Fugno. Never, never, never will that happen at my...Fugno. Never, never, never will that happen at my university. Last semester, the pea-brained student I trusted to take the evals to the office never did deliver them, and I was beaten mercilessly for it. OK, I admit I exaggerate, but only slightly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60121494190394281432011-09-24T23:52:43.805-04:002011-09-24T23:52:43.805-04:00And here I was assuming that Angry Reader was joki...And here I was assuming that Angry Reader was joking, riffing on Standard Real Goddam Email #27. Actually I'm still assuming that.Merely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-35267033879249814862011-09-24T23:14:57.419-04:002011-09-24T23:14:57.419-04:00My school has gone to a five year evaluation sched...My school has gone to a five year evaluation schedule for tenured proffies. Which is dandy with me since we don't have an instrument that is really a valid measure. Students who bother to fill them out rather than Christmas-treeing them either looooooooove you or think you're Beelzebub.Annie Oakleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396950355961607377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-61514547178868645432011-09-24T23:07:08.845-04:002011-09-24T23:07:08.845-04:00My institution only requires evaluations every thi...My institution only requires evaluations every third year for tenured professors. I still do them for every class for my own knowledge. The official ones are done by the department secretary and they only have ten questions. My personal ones have more questions and lots of room for written responses.Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815313561677464295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-70751374550971438072011-09-24T22:06:13.852-04:002011-09-24T22:06:13.852-04:00@Monkey: I'd be surprised if Angry Reader is R...@Monkey: I'd be surprised if Angry Reader is R and/or G (the author of the substantive post immediately before the Fox News article), who has struck me as having a good sense of humor and community spirit. It seems far more likely that our troll has returned in yet another guise, trying to stir up trouble (maybe even by sending in the Conan article, which was posted by the moderator, which Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-35634333630109928542011-09-24T21:14:38.309-04:002011-09-24T21:14:38.309-04:00I suspect that Angry Reader wrote an "interes...I suspect that Angry Reader wrote an "interesting" post earlier today and got sad face emoticons when other posts passed it by. So sad that creating an anonymous handle and complaining seemed to be the only recourse.<br /><br />We read all the posts, dearie, we do. I'm sure I'm not the only one who scrolls down the page reading everything until I see something I already read theAcademic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-63765144596263395932011-09-24T21:13:02.874-04:002011-09-24T21:13:02.874-04:00They're mandatory in every class for me, but I...They're mandatory in every class for me, but I never read them.Merely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-33675218296164791542011-09-24T20:06:49.262-04:002011-09-24T20:06:49.262-04:00Oftentimes I've gone a year without student ev...Oftentimes I've gone a year without student evals, but usually in a tenured spot. <br /><br />It is nice, actually. It makes you feel that you are teaching NOT to please the snowflakes, but to make them better. <br /><br />When student evals are used and taken seriously by administrators (which varies widely), then the customer service model is hard to ignore.Compound Calicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00059155949950433688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-40598315164613516882011-09-24T20:05:54.685-04:002011-09-24T20:05:54.685-04:00No, there shouldn't.No, there shouldn't.Lexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08353211383898810500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-2690157794367730982011-09-24T20:00:18.983-04:002011-09-24T20:00:18.983-04:00I hate when a really good post goes up and then ge...I hate when a really good post goes up and then gets slammed by a bunch of smaller, less important ones. Earlier today a really well written post went up and was buried by an article from Fox News, and some small and silly posts.<br /><br />There should be a better system for making sure important posts get to stay at the top and get the comments they deserve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60961078944463700512011-09-24T19:33:57.300-04:002011-09-24T19:33:57.300-04:00Yes.Yes.Charlotte Issyvoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11081140798331499819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-85149731949853929152011-09-24T17:54:49.566-04:002011-09-24T17:54:49.566-04:00No, but I've gone a whole year without actuall...No, but I've gone a whole year without actually reading my evaluations.Lexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08353211383898810500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-38676415319688975832011-09-24T17:03:33.041-04:002011-09-24T17:03:33.041-04:00Yes. Tenured profs at my SLAC are evaluated every...Yes. Tenured profs at my SLAC are evaluated every third semester.Natalie Grinnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14451685696152110716noreply@blogger.com