tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post5152682860581976608..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Natalie Munroe Is Blogging Again!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-20734256163829962202011-02-17T19:26:11.806-05:002011-02-17T19:26:11.806-05:00The anonymity and fake names and stuff isn't a...The anonymity and fake names and stuff isn't a trivial difference. It's a HUGE difference. Tell me how kid is supposed to walk into a teacher's room knowing specific mean things their teacher, for sure, has said.<br /><br />It's very different to vent anonymously about "flakes" then to say "frightfully dim" and "I hate your child" with your real Wombat of the Copierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847183793780076028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-2946560656816739172011-02-17T14:45:09.863-05:002011-02-17T14:45:09.863-05:00Holla, Crazy Math Prof.Holla, Crazy Math Prof.Mrs. Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00398436173535554878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-28436909305665598992011-02-17T11:19:22.875-05:002011-02-17T11:19:22.875-05:00I don't think that we should be down on Munroe...I don't think that we should be down on Munroe for what she stated about unidentified students, faculty, and admin. We've done the same sort of stuff here. The only difference is we've picked pseudonyms and fake pics. Hello, Pot!<br /><br />We don't know that she wouldn't have said those things in the faculty lounge. At department meetings, my colleagues and I gripe about Crazy Math Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409653814917911532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-52196643738987881662011-02-16T22:45:09.510-05:002011-02-16T22:45:09.510-05:00@Resident: generally, I agree with you. I don'...@Resident: generally, I agree with you. I don't tend to claim credit for my student's successes (or failures), just for setting up conditions (exercises, assignments, etc.) which will allow the maximum number of them, it they put in the requisite amount of effort, to develop (or at least improve) the skills I'm charged with teaching them, and for providing guidance along the way (if/Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-15973333596005282042011-02-16T22:16:55.352-05:002011-02-16T22:16:55.352-05:00I was just kind of horrified at this comment to th...I was just kind of horrified at this comment to the reports post (from cache) by one of her students:<br /><br />"It's not a students' job to please you, it's your job to get a student an A to the best of your ability in a reasonable fashion."<br /><br />It's scary to think that some students think a teacher's "job" is to give them an A.RachelHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13555521690578491665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-80935537700622435162011-02-16T18:08:51.053-05:002011-02-16T18:08:51.053-05:00Cassandra,
If teachers are not to be automaticall...Cassandra,<br /><br />If teachers are not to be automatically blamed for failure, and if instead look to students, parents and others, then we should not look to praise teachers automatically for students success.Residenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06713934656003293341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6710360218971821032011-02-16T15:18:02.003-05:002011-02-16T15:18:02.003-05:00She said something inappropriate and counter to he...She said something inappropriate and counter to her ideal of mutual respect. To be accountable she should say "I said some things that were inappropriate and disrespectful. But..." not "I didn't do anything wrong and it's my right to say what I said and what I said makes things better."<br /><br />She should acknowledge what was wrong and restate her intended purposeWombat of the Copierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847183793780076028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-40170116452673740572011-02-16T15:15:59.966-05:002011-02-16T15:15:59.966-05:00Actually, being dim is one of the few things you d...Actually, being dim is one of the few things you don't have to be accountable for. Ignorant, yes, badly prepared, yes, lazy, yes, inattentive, yes. But not plain old dim -- that's the luck of the draw. And the public schools have to take everyone, so it's not a matter of "who admitted this idiot, anyway?" Therefore teachers are accountable to the dim, and I always Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-70065167977229185512011-02-16T15:10:34.694-05:002011-02-16T15:10:34.694-05:00So what does accountable mean in this instance?So what does accountable mean in this instance?Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653265363298375065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-91753332291812782322011-02-16T14:53:32.479-05:002011-02-16T14:53:32.479-05:00FML - I would agree that she should not be fired. ...FML - I would agree that she should not be fired. <br /><br />But she wants to shine a light on the plight of teachers and how we're bullied and villified, then turns around and calls her students "frightfully dim". I'm on board with railing against the lazy and obnoxious. I'm on board with saying the dummies shouldn't go to college. But she's in public school. Wombat of the Copierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847183793780076028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-68904483935117769012011-02-16T14:27:04.598-05:002011-02-16T14:27:04.598-05:00I mean... um... uh....I mean... um... uh....Southern Bubba, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992903794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12640276230792533792011-02-16T14:26:07.244-05:002011-02-16T14:26:07.244-05:00I hate educators who blog. They're so stupid ...I hate educators who blog. They're so stupid and irresponsible.Southern Bubba, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992903794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-82512267944502824842011-02-16T13:07:08.198-05:002011-02-16T13:07:08.198-05:00Ok so maybe so maybe posting these opinions so pub...Ok so maybe so maybe posting these opinions so publicly with her picture and name was not smart, but was it unethical? Illegal? I admit I have not read her blog, I do not have the time to do so, however this does raise a question for me.<br /><br />If she is fired because she wrote about students will students in turn be expelled for writing about their peers or their teachers? For example if Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653265363298375065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-57839340458030860432011-02-16T12:37:53.209-05:002011-02-16T12:37:53.209-05:00Her comments on the post that seems to be creating...Her comments on the post that seems to be creating the most controversy (which is now gone from the blog itself, but which ELS dug up and linked to in the earlier CM discussion) strike me as a combination of very funny and all-too-true and just plain mean (comprehensive personal attacks, based, as one of her students points out, on limited evidence). Interestingly, her former students, whose Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-922866989509154882011-02-16T11:18:43.474-05:002011-02-16T11:18:43.474-05:00She's a moron and a hypocrite. She wants to p...She's a moron and a hypocrite. She wants to pontificate on accountability, but she got caught blogging things she wouldn't say in the faculty room and doesn't want to accept the consequences. <br /><br />She wants to "discuss" accountability while blogging that she "chats on the drive". Is she ready to "account" for being a shitty driver? Cell phone Wombat of the Copierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847183793780076028noreply@blogger.com