tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post6109003972525601362..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Appropriate Behavior at CM.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-59165666320790881552010-10-21T13:13:14.281-04:002010-10-21T13:13:14.281-04:00That statement (in the sidebar) looks good to me, ...That statement (in the sidebar) looks good to me, Fab. I think that personal attacks on other posters are the only thing that's getting anyone riled. <br /><br />Oh, and "insults only in a dead language, please". I like that. :)Merely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-79665604027690059882010-10-21T10:25:44.928-04:002010-10-21T10:25:44.928-04:00The good thing is, Fab, you model the best of what...The good thing is, Fab, you model the best of what we could/can be.Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-58655456880731486892010-10-21T09:24:28.788-04:002010-10-21T09:24:28.788-04:00Well said, Archie. I think he makes a lot of great...Well said, Archie. I think he makes a lot of great points.<br /><br />I loved RYS, and that's why I was one of several folks who asked Cal about starting a new site so we'd have a profane and irreverent place to continue parts of that blog's mission.<br /><br />And, I don't think profanity is tied to civility. It's my <i>mom</i> who didn't like it. (I so regret using the &College Miseryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01371354682300032653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60743854274805796832010-10-21T09:07:47.892-04:002010-10-21T09:07:47.892-04:00I don't know what you should do, Fab, but as o...I don't know what you should do, Fab, but as others have said, if you do go to some kind of semi-moderated system where a team of people will have access for the purposes of purging offensive comments, I'd appreciate a heads up and a little lead time. I would likely leave CM if that happened. Jim wants you to think he'd be happy to post under his real name, but I've had some bad Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197015065747868297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-49331176703656369952010-10-21T08:48:40.071-04:002010-10-21T08:48:40.071-04:00As I look back over the most active posts, It seem...As I look back over the most active posts, It seems to me that it is we who have lost this war for ourselves. Jim has taken heat, and while he has been somewhat vulgar, he also had quite a few personal attacks directed at him in the wake of his statement on which discipline was smarter. We became so skittish as to accuse people who voiced support for Jim of being Jim. Really? If this Alan From Apexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01366176105581248496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-59596234851106196542010-10-21T03:12:39.679-04:002010-10-21T03:12:39.679-04:00Everyone has a perfect right to free speech - on t...Everyone has a perfect right to free speech - on their own blog. If this isn't your blog, you have only privileges. Deal with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-85880595074929161522010-10-21T00:11:44.184-04:002010-10-21T00:11:44.184-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.abysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07262945566870649768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-71234328759472458452010-10-21T00:06:29.154-04:002010-10-21T00:06:29.154-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.CDPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12817680759277860662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-35055433243123366732010-10-20T21:46:16.014-04:002010-10-20T21:46:16.014-04:00I'm with the majority of thoughtful commenters...I'm with the majority of thoughtful commenters above: it would be great to have some moderation, in moderation.<br /><br />As a longtime RYS and CM lurker, very recently joined up here, I enjoy a lot of the comments and often learn from the disagreements. But the exchanges of insults turn me away. Besides the unpleasantness of the misogyny and adolescent name-calling, they are distracting Eskarinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14854383335265386899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-37135023019232903432010-10-20T20:44:50.037-04:002010-10-20T20:44:50.037-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.abysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07262945566870649768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60889727813809894062010-10-20T19:28:23.774-04:002010-10-20T19:28:23.774-04:00Fab - Good luck with this one.
The blog whose com...Fab - Good luck with this one.<br /><br />The blog whose comments I most like to read is Jeff Master's on wunderground. Some of the features that make it nice are the ability to ignore a particular user and a reader activated method that hides comments most people don't like (available to look at, just one click away).<br /><br />I am not sure if blogspot has these features available, Alan From Apexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01366176105581248496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-42651951978109515392010-10-20T19:09:01.809-04:002010-10-20T19:09:01.809-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.abysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07262945566870649768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-71400897975889532012010-10-20T18:39:29.015-04:002010-10-20T18:39:29.015-04:00Jim--
If the "extreme position" is basi...Jim--<br /><br />If the "extreme position" is basically "You're all assholes and I'm smarter than you," I wouldn't call that a "position," even if you had empirical proof that of both statements. I'm also not sure I think hurling insults qualifies as a "discussion."<br /><br />And "trash talk" (as well as the desire to provoke it) StellafromSparksburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17584701718285662953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-29271684561059714272010-10-20T18:14:10.720-04:002010-10-20T18:14:10.720-04:00Dear Jim,
The "Fab's mom is in the room&...Dear Jim,<br /><br />The "Fab's mom is in the room" rule is not a criterion I'm asking anyone to agree with or live with long term. I'm just hoping it will get us through 24 hours so we can all get a chance to review what the group of readers and writers for CM think.<br /><br />Thank you,<br />FabCollege Miseryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01371354682300032653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-53270877263886794232010-10-20T18:06:09.074-04:002010-10-20T18:06:09.074-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.abysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07262945566870649768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-36125368493219906402010-10-20T18:01:44.717-04:002010-10-20T18:01:44.717-04:00well said, stella...but you always get it right......well said, stella...but you always get it right...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-64346844568410512152010-10-20T17:46:23.920-04:002010-10-20T17:46:23.920-04:00I think the fact that this blog is unmoderated jus...I think the fact that this blog is unmoderated just makes glaringly obvious what was doubtless true when it was RYS.<br /><br />Academia is full of cowardly, pud-pulling buttholes, and our first impulse is to get into a pissing contest and then, to eat each other.<br /><br />Just a generalization. Not true of everyone. But manifestly true of a good portion of the people across all disciplines StellafromSparksburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17584701718285662953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-75778047926936758672010-10-20T17:45:02.005-04:002010-10-20T17:45:02.005-04:00Moving away from the "Tim-Jim-some offended a...Moving away from the "Tim-Jim-some offended acadamic" Eternal Triangle I want to go back to early September of this year, when the subject to drunk-dialing academics came up. In the comments I mentioned my belief that Alcoholics Anonymous does not work. It seems that everyone who teaches (and writes/comments on this board) either knows a recovering alcoholic or is one. At no time did I Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12660962615198939441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-43048826946841730132010-10-20T17:44:13.706-04:002010-10-20T17:44:13.706-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.abysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07262945566870649768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-17931759215828529832010-10-20T17:39:14.699-04:002010-10-20T17:39:14.699-04:00Commenters who care about this site should moderat...Commenters who care about this site should moderate themselves. If somebody writes a comment that you think is truly offensive and beyond the pale, don't try to explain, reason, negociate or pursuade. Just ignore it. These things have a way of fixing themselves.<br /><br />None of the comments that I read from today were <i>that</i> bad, which may reflect poorly on me. CM's done Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-76431571605090700722010-10-20T17:21:44.093-04:002010-10-20T17:21:44.093-04:00I just returned from the "offending" mat...I just returned from the "offending" material ... and while I reserve comment on the censorship issue, I have to say I am off the charts fed up with the "man up", "grow a pair", "this is the NFL" machismo.<br /><br />First of all ... this is NOT the NFL -- it's academe. Rememba, we all stayed in school so we would NOT have 275 pound behemoths charging Aware and Scaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700345349806280657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-33054791813795356182010-10-20T17:21:24.339-04:002010-10-20T17:21:24.339-04:00I would be in favor of someone (perhaps some volun...I would be in favor of someone (perhaps some volunteers so it's not too much work for Fab?) removing some of the more offensive comments. I've been the target of personal attacks on this blog and it can get pretty unpleasant - this is why I've bailed on a few threads without bothering to check what further insults have been directed towards me. It's okay to disagree with someone Programming Pattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838328277067778125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-41965607899947328302010-10-20T17:18:29.278-04:002010-10-20T17:18:29.278-04:00Oh, for heaven's sake. Just don't feed th...Oh, for heaven's sake. Just don't feed the trolls, people.Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17027355736277003677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-75498418368499395902010-10-20T17:14:36.016-04:002010-10-20T17:14:36.016-04:00Yes, I took a poke at Jim's mental capacities ...Yes, I took a poke at Jim's mental capacities because I figured that since he can quite clearly dish it out, he can take it. That's how I deal with trolls.<br />Now, I am smart enough and nuanced enough to know that every site on the internet has its own set of rules. If Jim comes to my corner of the web, I might call him a puppy-fucker, but if we agree to cut out the ad hominem attacks WhatLadderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11603489349164511704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-80851695956530550422010-10-20T16:54:28.418-04:002010-10-20T16:54:28.418-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.abysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07262945566870649768noreply@blogger.com