tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post634351574863532454..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Jonah from June Lake With the MLA Interview Topper.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-23810243459835377532011-01-10T11:32:53.427-05:002011-01-10T11:32:53.427-05:00My first impulse (and probably my final conclusion...My first impulse (and probably my final conclusion) is yes, this is absolutely awful and possibly illegal and you probably shouldn't take this job even if offered (and, if they invite you to campus at their expense, you should think carefully about the value of the time you'll spend, or at least have a *very* frank conversation with the person who extends the invitation, and perhaps with Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-69968435334298259042011-01-10T00:01:05.461-05:002011-01-10T00:01:05.461-05:00Question for Jonah from June Lake:
Did you stay a...Question for Jonah from June Lake:<br /><br />Did you stay at that really crummy motor lodge across from Pasadena City College? When I was doing Forensics years ago, we would stay there every time we hit PCC. It's the early-1960s place that is mostly one story and has the Western motif.Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12660962615198939441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-69457790723676075152011-01-09T22:12:58.918-05:002011-01-09T22:12:58.918-05:00@Wisconsin Will...I assume that pretty much everyb...@Wisconsin Will...I assume that pretty much everybody in my field gets hired based on some kind of insider connection, and whether or not I'm in the room with that Insider, s/he is out there. <br /><br />I'd just rather not meet him.cmthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814447289455034068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-323680828705772622011-01-09T20:23:05.415-05:002011-01-09T20:23:05.415-05:00Are we all reading the same post? Are any of us un...Are we all reading the same post? Are any of us under the impression that there are NO inside candidates for jobs?<br /><br />Devil advocate style, I like that they brought Glen to the interview because he appears to know a good deal about the position that is being filled.<br /><br />And, when it came time to actually interview the candidate, Glen was asked to leave. I'd suggest that seems Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-11318692831747738352011-01-09T19:18:03.181-05:002011-01-09T19:18:03.181-05:00Please contact HR and cc the note to the college/u...Please contact HR and cc the note to the college/university lawyers.Snarkygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01067007187692484910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-62719390217652767742011-01-09T18:40:25.374-05:002011-01-09T18:40:25.374-05:00In a year or so I hope to be the "inside cand...In a year or so I hope to be the "inside candidate" but there is no way I would want to sit in the interview with a competitor for the position!!!!Middle-Aged and Morosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058963404500281265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-28102754532524828462011-01-09T17:20:08.860-05:002011-01-09T17:20:08.860-05:00I know that it's really hard to say no when yo...I know that it's really hard to say no when you are offered a job, but interviews really should be for BOTH parties to suss out whether they are right for one another.<br /><br />I once accepted a job even though everything about the interview experience screamed to me that they were assholes I didn't want to work for. I lasted all of 2 months, and I swore I would never do that again.<br WhatLadderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11603489349164511704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-25175779240287121532011-01-09T17:11:03.694-05:002011-01-09T17:11:03.694-05:00Maybe there's a legit explanation for this fuc...Maybe there's a legit explanation for this fucktardedness. Maybe not. If they offer you the job, have a heart-to-heart talk with the hiring committee chairman or the dean before you start working there. Like Froderick said, you should expect to get fucked there eventually. Maybe they were all between a rock and a hard place themselves. Maybe they had a good reason for behaving that way.Southern Bubba, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12050992903794385204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-74406568672735818992011-01-09T16:21:20.975-05:002011-01-09T16:21:20.975-05:00Don't always fear the inside candidate. In our...Don't always fear the inside candidate. In our hiring at my school, the last 2-3 people have won out over a number of great insiders. Our Dean loves new folks. It's not always a bad sign. Good luck, Jonah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-37335023415569728292011-01-09T14:04:42.281-05:002011-01-09T14:04:42.281-05:00Just to put a different spin on this...I interview...Just to put a different spin on this...I interviewed for a position that I thought I didn't have a have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting. Not only was it a small department that had ONE opening and over 100 applicants (35+ interviews), most of the applicants were current adjuncts and one of them was actually the brother-in-law of one of the department chairpersons. I got this BitchyProffiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11055478360011842597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46043188040270483632011-01-09T12:31:43.899-05:002011-01-09T12:31:43.899-05:00That's revolting. You paid money to be there ...That's revolting. You paid money to be there and they did that? <br /><br />1. Letter to HR department. <br />2. Every horrifying interview I do, I think "well, at least I know what it's like when THAT happens now..." It's cold comfort, but it is a bit of comfort.cmthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814447289455034068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-28852537194832625482011-01-09T11:27:30.332-05:002011-01-09T11:27:30.332-05:00The more i think about this, the more pissed i am....The more i think about this, the more pissed i am. If they're going to hire their internal guy, slick suit and all, and they're going through the motions to make it look like they searched, then it's fucking fraud, and it cost YOU and others who cant fucking afford it a lot of money for them to carry out their little show.Dr. Crankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544814759723000405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46123570983881725572011-01-09T11:01:49.978-05:002011-01-09T11:01:49.978-05:00That was a really dirty thing they did, Jonah from...That was a really dirty thing they did, Jonah from June Lake. I agree with Ahistoricality, a word to their HR dept is certainly warranted.<br /><br />But, yeah, these are not the douchbags you'd want to spend your working life with anyway. Who knows what other stunts they'd pull.Dr. Crankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544814759723000405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-44779189071937280612011-01-09T10:23:53.371-05:002011-01-09T10:23:53.371-05:00Keep the suit and count yourself lucky.Keep the suit and count yourself lucky.Ovreductdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13961540854552566493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-5472773008626375222011-01-09T04:27:54.606-05:002011-01-09T04:27:54.606-05:00Before I had my t-t job, I hated being in this pos...Before I had my t-t job, I hated being in this position: interviewing for a job I clearly knew shouldn't take, and yet it was my only interview. I hope you get more offers, elsewhere, at places where people still have a shred of human decency, from where you can look back at this experience and say, "Thank goodness I didn't get THAT job." I hope you realize that, if you take Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-51707556658809163162011-01-09T02:43:28.846-05:002011-01-09T02:43:28.846-05:00AARRGGHHH, Jonah. I hope you were able to at least...AARRGGHHH, Jonah. I hope you were able to at least crash a hosted reception (if MLA has any) and get a few free drinks.Eskarinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14854383335265386899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-88023354349358437952011-01-09T01:56:47.519-05:002011-01-09T01:56:47.519-05:00Welcome to Shithead U, where we'll either open...Welcome to Shithead U, where we'll either openly inform you (with a wink and a nod) that we'll be hiring our internal candidate; or, we're so heartless and callous that we're going to introduce the guy we're kicking to the curb to his replacement.<br /><br />How much money is getting wasted by this scenario? Remember to multiply by several factors to accommodate multiple Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47355615036655148692011-01-09T01:12:03.971-05:002011-01-09T01:12:03.971-05:00You should drop an anonymous note to their HR depa...You should drop an anonymous note to their HR department: that's beyond the pale, ethically, morally and, IANAL, I'm pretty sure, legally.Ahistoricalityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04004964192885891003noreply@blogger.com