tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post6561177766230789481..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: 11 Approaches to College LifeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-74713004481199668462011-09-02T20:28:00.274-04:002011-09-02T20:28:00.274-04:00"There's such a thing as too many drinks?..."There's such a thing as too many drinks?"<br /><br />When people are urinating in your dorm shower, HELLS YES.Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12660962615198939441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-85623790274694884012011-09-02T08:36:19.230-04:002011-09-02T08:36:19.230-04:00There's such a thing as too many drinks?There's such a thing as too many drinks?introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-78287530302790072242011-09-01T16:58:43.467-04:002011-09-01T16:58:43.467-04:00I live in a state where people who want to be teac...I live in a state where people who want to be teachers (even -- perhaps especially -- early childhood/kindergarten teachers) have to get a degree in a real subject (either one of the Liberal Arts, as Archie has described them, or one of the late 19th/early 20th C social sciences, or some interdisciplinary combination of the above. I'm not sure whether one can major in Business or EngineeringContingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-34881573218947030032011-09-01T14:22:30.120-04:002011-09-01T14:22:30.120-04:00Fuck, the angst of ed majors. I was one, once. For...Fuck, the angst of ed majors. I was one, once. For half a semester. I wanted to teach high school. But the sheer lunacy of my classmates helped me make the time-honored decision to go to grad school instead.<br /><br />Hm. Maybe they rubbed off on me? Eesh.<br /><br />EMH, calm down a bit, you're missing social cues. Beaker Ben, I love your additions to this list. Archie, I just love you and Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-30904331925538054312011-09-01T10:56:04.775-04:002011-09-01T10:56:04.775-04:00Something EMH said reminded me of a class I once t...Something EMH said reminded me of a class I once took. We had a guest speaker who was amazing. Two students next to me were flapping their mouths and paying no attention, and making it difficult for several of us to hear. People gave dirty looks, shushed them, nothing worked. I finally had it. I leaned over and said, very quietly but with, um, feeling, "would. you. please. shut. the. fuck. Annie Oakleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396950355961607377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-9013278146842932162011-09-01T09:42:08.587-04:002011-09-01T09:42:08.587-04:00O how I heart Archie. I'm buying his second d...O how I heart Archie. I'm buying his second drink.Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-80234907857909631442011-09-01T06:48:22.510-04:002011-09-01T06:48:22.510-04:00I wouldn't get too worked up over the list. I...I wouldn't get too worked up over the list. It's not in the Chronicle, USA Today or on CNN. And the author isn't putting him/herself forward as an expert. It's just someone with an interblog.<br /><br />I'd boil a lot of them down into Stay healthy, get out of your dorm room and interact with others. A few I'd dispute/modify:<br /><br />#1 Get the best marks you can, Rosencrantz Andor Guildensternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095512139776536635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-26369788724051120822011-09-01T02:11:35.983-04:002011-09-01T02:11:35.983-04:00@ Archie
"It makes sense only insofar as the...@ Archie<br /><br />"It makes sense only insofar as they both have the word "Liberal" in them, but pointing that out seems churlish, or perhaps vaguely impugns EMH's language and critical thinking skills, so let's not go there."<br /><br />Have a drink on me.Emergency Mathematical Hologramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873569623797587860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-86718880022079374242011-09-01T01:15:26.668-04:002011-09-01T01:15:26.668-04:00@Nullifidian:
Now bring it on home Hoss. From th...@Nullifidian: <br /><br />Now bring it on home Hoss. From the traditional trivium and quadrivium you get the modern liberal arts curriculum, which includes Literature, History, and Philosophy (the descendants of the old trivium) and Mathematics, Music, Astronomy, Physics, Chemistry and Biology (the descendants of the old quadrivium) . And if you want to get really technical, all of them are Angry Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07348431132289025339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-79374041855815891492011-09-01T00:20:18.327-04:002011-09-01T00:20:18.327-04:00EMH:
@Archie: Mathematics is a Liberal Art? Well, ...EMH:<br /><i>@Archie: Mathematics is a Liberal Art? Well, I'll admit that my alma-mater required the liberal arts majors to take some kind of basic math, but that was about it.</i><br /><br />In medieval universities, the liberal arts were subdivided into two categories: the <i>trivium</i> first (grammar, rhetoric, and logic), and then the <i>quadrivium</i> (arithmetic, geometry, music, and Nullifidianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15207390447020990907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-57436336507167445102011-09-01T00:14:53.797-04:002011-09-01T00:14:53.797-04:00I've seen these lists o' roolz on the inte...I've seen these lists o' roolz on the intertubez; all of them suck. My main rule for Freshmen is one from "Apocalypse Now":<br /><br />Never get off the boat unless you are willing to go ALL the way.Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12660962615198939441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-63405120165318026552011-08-31T23:25:34.562-04:002011-08-31T23:25:34.562-04:00Sorry guys, but perhaps things are better from whe...Sorry guys, but perhaps things are better from where you sit, by my experience with liberal arts students has been that they are a bit, um, dim (for lack of a more tactful adjective). My intent was to insult our snowflakes, not the program. I can only imagine how full your hands are with dealing with students who get to take the easiest courses because they can't read. This has been my Emergency Mathematical Hologramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873569623797587860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-8317985292625257542011-08-31T23:13:15.426-04:002011-08-31T23:13:15.426-04:00So when they 'shoot for a C," that means ...So when they 'shoot for a C," that means they're really doing F work, right? Because I hear all the time that they worked hard enough for an A, but it's really C work. <br /><br />I don't even know why someone would advise anyone to play video games in college. Total. waste. of. time.<br /><br />I'm glad I had better advice than this in college.The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-90750662811172945282011-08-31T22:33:48.148-04:002011-08-31T22:33:48.148-04:00Well, if EMH was serious, it was a self-directed i...Well, if EMH was serious, it was a self-directed insult. After all, Mathematics is one of the Liberal Arts.<br /><br />But let's not let facts and details get in the way of a good old fashioned insult.Angry Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07348431132289025339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-61869858642860174052011-08-31T21:34:12.171-04:002011-08-31T21:34:12.171-04:00But who was implying that? AM said "Sure, av...But who was implying that? AM said "Sure, avoid liberal arts. But avoid discussion? What about critical thinking?" I took that to mean that you can get critical thinking without the liberal arts. <br /><br />I will admit that EMH often makes no sense to me. I leave him to more nimble minds.Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-10728459016984656332011-08-31T21:15:23.376-04:002011-08-31T21:15:23.376-04:00EMH and DrN, the whole justification of learning l...EMH and DrN, the whole justification of learning liberal arts is critical thinking. You have a skill (painting, reading, writing, musicking) and you use it think critically about society. It's the whole point. So either EMH was making a joke or relying on the whole maths v humanities thing.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47528600353481945522011-08-31T21:13:43.059-04:002011-08-31T21:13:43.059-04:00I can't totally disagree with any of the advic...I can't totally disagree with any of the advice. <br /><br />1. I have so many students who just won't earn an A no matter how hard they try. I wish some of them would accept this and focus on things they might actually excel at. Besides if they all think that they are A students, then we've got more trouble.<br /><br />2. Learning to network is vital out there in the business world. Crazy Math Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409653814917911532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-56851338601266699772011-08-31T21:05:55.779-04:002011-08-31T21:05:55.779-04:00Frog and Toad: read EMH again. He didn't insul...Frog and Toad: read EMH again. He didn't insult entire fields of inquiry. He merely said that they were not synonymous with "critical thinking". <br /><br />And they're not. Some subjects and classes have healthy servings of it. Some have only a little. Regardless, the implication that "Liberal Arts" is the only way to get "critical thinking" is a little Three Sigmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10822893039310439770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-92191324528344583602011-08-31T20:34:33.354-04:002011-08-31T20:34:33.354-04:00Here's a few substitutes for #1, 3, 5 and 11:
...Here's a few substitutes for #1, 3, 5 and 11:<br /><br />College is a good time to start pretending to be an adult.<br /><br />Don't let these be the best years of your life. That would mean that the next 60 years are downhill. That would suck.<br /><br />Use this secret formula for getting up for an 8 am class: go to bed before 2 am, you fucking moron.<br /><br />Don't talk about Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-64741561092584925252011-08-31T20:17:19.688-04:002011-08-31T20:17:19.688-04:00EMH, is it entirely necessary to insult entire fie...EMH, is it entirely necessary to insult entire fields of inquiry? Or was this just sarcasm that doesn't translate onscreen?Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-5021651335382078572011-08-31T20:00:50.428-04:002011-08-31T20:00:50.428-04:00Talk to as many people as possible in the first we...Talk to as many people as possible in the first week. It astounds me how quiet my classroom is at the beginning of the semester, before class starts. No one knows each other and they make no attempt to introduce themselves to each other. Everyone is listening to IPods or texting and not interacting. I agree, meet as many people as possible that first week.Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815313561677464295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-73330001312074416132011-08-31T19:54:57.652-04:002011-08-31T19:54:57.652-04:00Wow, I never thought I'd see the day when Libe...Wow, I never thought I'd see the day when Liberal Arts is equated with critical thinking.Emergency Mathematical Hologramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873569623797587860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-57605153884217654942011-08-31T19:32:12.962-04:002011-08-31T19:32:12.962-04:00I agree with a few of them--there IS life outside ...I agree with a few of them--there IS life outside their dorm; they definitely shouldn't spread themselves too thin by joining too many things; the freshman 15 is insidious and tips on staying healthy would be good; setting everything on FB to private is something I think not enough people do. A lot of the rest of it is, of course, BS.Snarky Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196509615328045888noreply@blogger.com