tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post8017238687559876099..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: On Science and Boobs. Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-49186034084473655742015-06-05T11:42:04.104-04:002015-06-05T11:42:04.104-04:00I second everything Proffie says. Document everyt...I second everything Proffie says. Document everything. That's the only way to deal with this crap.<br /><br />I haven't had to deal with such nonsense from someone above me (so to speak) in the chain of command, but I've had to deal with unwanted attention from students at LD3C, which attracts people who have never been socialized, apparently. Call me paranoid, but the first whiff Great Lakes Gretahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08101613060478193833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-64990951003365424502015-06-01T23:57:23.299-04:002015-06-01T23:57:23.299-04:00I like Harriet's advice too, and wish we lived...I like Harriet's advice too, and wish we lived in a world where a new, subordinate employee (6 months into a post-doc) could trust the male peers of her boss to do the right thing. But approaching them could backfire.<br /><br />She could ask around among her peers-- other female post-docs and advanced grad students -- to see if her advisor has a reputation for a shirt-peeking and what the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-9985758533658240492015-06-01T21:02:16.598-04:002015-06-01T21:02:16.598-04:00It's also possible the prof is uncomfortable m...It's also possible the prof is uncomfortable making eye contact and looks down automatically. I find myself doing that sometimes. I like Harriet's advice. Perhaps the young woman should have one of the prof's peers take him aside for a small word or too about where his eyes wander. Middle-Aged and Morosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04046076243513948921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-25786010716362488802015-06-01T20:57:12.188-04:002015-06-01T20:57:12.188-04:00I think the problem here is "proportionality&...I think the problem here is "proportionality". Some offenses are egregious (crimes, or at least termination worthy) and some might be those "I didn't realize I was doing it" and the remedy might be as simple as another male colleague meeting with the guy privately and saying something like "hey, you might want to watch where your eyes wander; you can unintentionally Harriethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17953435368705942387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-52289114398165617652015-06-01T20:45:21.903-04:002015-06-01T20:45:21.903-04:00So how do we nominate Proffie G to fill a (presuma...So how do we nominate Proffie G to fill a (presumably) vacant spot for an advice columnist? Maybe they'd like to alternate between her and Academic Monkey, who also has talents in that area? <br /><br />Also, how do we tell <i>Science</i> that imitating <i>Slate's</i> clickbait headlines for advice columns ("Help! I xxxxxxxxx") isn't really the best idea? Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60216021248332606762015-06-01T19:35:22.582-04:002015-06-01T19:35:22.582-04:00Just read the linked article. OMG, it was in Scien...Just read the linked article. OMG, it was in Science, which did the right thing by deleting the advice.<br /><br />The woman seeking advice was a post-doc. The woman giving advice wrote an apologia that said basically, "Men are men; an attractive woman is such a turn-on that men can't pay attention to what she is saying. Your advisor may not even know he's leering. Unless he followsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.com