tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post8172879944949811924..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: "I just wanted to serve my country" -- and you still can, buckoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-4313698470188318752012-08-30T11:26:53.357-04:002012-08-30T11:26:53.357-04:00Happy Schicksalstag. I should just avoid going to ...Happy Schicksalstag. I should just avoid going to Germany. Something's bound to go down should I do so.The Mad Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104841422695591759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-31433069222926128922012-08-30T04:45:25.355-04:002012-08-30T04:45:25.355-04:00It was also the day the Berlin Wall fell, in 1989....It was also the day the Berlin Wall fell, in 1989. Joyous pronouncements were made about how November 9 would go down in German history forever, until it was realized that it already had, for a very different reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-83559396188833739212012-08-29T20:22:14.557-04:002012-08-29T20:22:14.557-04:00My birthday is just not meant to have good things ...My birthday is just not meant to have good things happen on it.The Mad Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104841422695591759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-50016149391251073322012-08-29T19:03:18.947-04:002012-08-29T19:03:18.947-04:00Hm, good to know! Thanks.Hm, good to know! Thanks.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-90083096435549146412012-08-29T14:37:14.034-04:002012-08-29T14:37:14.034-04:00Grumpy_Seargeant sends this comment in:
The last c...<i>Grumpy_Seargeant sends this comment in:</i><br />The last comment in the article Strine was said to have made is<br />instructive: “’ All I wanted to do was serve my country, and now I<br />can't because of one little mistake that was caught on tape.’”<br /><br />What a whiner! In addition to conduct unbecoming an officer one could<br />add quibbling.<br /><br />“I'm losing College Miseryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01371354682300032653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-78245923343004695122012-08-29T12:43:02.919-04:002012-08-29T12:43:02.919-04:00A real situation, then? I would use my judgement. ...A real situation, then? I would use my judgement. Some things can be written off to "blowing off steam." Others cannot. Without knowing more specifics (or being an A.M.) I can't help you decide which is which.<br /><br />Generally the Chain of Command likes to know about such things, but depending on the thing, the rank of the offender and whether the thing actually publicly introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6430996873756644432012-08-29T12:07:13.112-04:002012-08-29T12:07:13.112-04:00So, nothing for me to do then, I suppose. Shame, t...So, nothing for me to do then, I suppose. Shame, this was terribly disrespectful and just shocking.Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-43799690393072468232012-08-29T10:37:22.744-04:002012-08-29T10:37:22.744-04:00Generally, true. Yet, we all have been 19, and all...Generally, true. Yet, we all have been 19, and all of us where a) imbeciles b) with a lot of energy, so we performed many public stupid actions.<br />Age gives a different flavour of imbecillity, one which mostly stays private.French Professeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08062264385792788503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-71420057374753801962012-08-29T08:00:30.198-04:002012-08-29T08:00:30.198-04:00I did see it; thank you. I apologize for not ackno...I did see it; thank you. I apologize for not acknowledging it before now. The blog thing: the past is gone.<br /><br />As I posted above, I fully agree with you, though "conduct unbecoming an officer" will usually have more severe consequences than "conduct reflecting poorly on the United States Army" would have for an enlisted person.introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-48724693641241510482012-08-29T07:56:26.363-04:002012-08-29T07:56:26.363-04:00Incidentally, "administrative punishment"...Incidentally, "administrative punishment" is exactly what this particular young "man" got from Penn State. The idea is that you don't involve the criminal courts; you keep it local, limited and in-house so as to have minimum impact on the offender's future.introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87001113801121663392012-08-29T07:52:39.690-04:002012-08-29T07:52:39.690-04:00Part of command is understanding what to see and w...Part of command is understanding what to see and what not to see. As Frod points out below, ROTC may not have had a choice since the boy was suspended. Nevertheless, if said combat vet was arrested for, say, public indecency while drunk, and didn't make excuses, s/he'd probably get administrative punishment.<br /><br />The career consequences would differ for enlisted personnel and introvert.profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09042783611716432247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-54318249586033281812012-08-29T03:53:28.020-04:002012-08-29T03:53:28.020-04:00Something particularly poignant in this case is th...Something particularly poignant in this case is that November 9 is the anniversary of the Kristallnacht. I'm afraid that this kid's military career is wounded irreparably, destined for mediocrity at the very best, no matter what happens. Can you imagine anyone ever granting him a security clearance, particularly after the statements evading responsibility for his actions that he's so Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-30294832888013060642012-08-29T02:49:24.462-04:002012-08-29T02:49:24.462-04:00I accept that there will always be a few bag eggs ...I accept that there will always be a few bag eggs in any organization. I would to think that ROTC did the right thing here. However, given that the Cadet was suspended ROTC may have had no choice.<br /><br />The article gives the impression that he was doing well. <br /><br />The first weekend I was at Officer Candidate School we were told to fill both our cateens with water. One Cadet (our Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086727387857705638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-88333529826129805992012-08-29T01:48:52.562-04:002012-08-29T01:48:52.562-04:00The question is:
Is the PSU ROTC program failing t...The question is:<br />Is the PSU ROTC program failing to educate its cadet corps on the fundamental meaning of the 'special trust and confidence" that comes with commissioned service...or was this yahoo not in class that day??miserable adjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607025328823563088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-58010013172840359902012-08-29T01:41:41.478-04:002012-08-29T01:41:41.478-04:00The last comment in the article Strine was said to...The last comment in the article Strine was said to have made is instructive: “’ All I wanted to do was serve my country, and now I can't because of one little mistake that was caught on tape.’”<br /><br />What a whiner! In addition to conduct unbecoming an officer one could add quibbling. <br /> <br />“I'm losing everything I worked my entire life for.” Really? He’s all of 21. Jeez.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086727387857705638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-1050825979967062592012-08-29T01:12:36.240-04:002012-08-29T01:12:36.240-04:00Read the news article -- if you want to get a disg...Read the news article -- if you want to get a disgusting, stomach-turning dose of "everything but the obvious." The obvious being that this guy is GUILTY and really does have a questionable character. He's simply too reckless to be a proper candidate for something as serious as military service. Even this clown's father, a veteran who ought to know better, gets in on the Old Schoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13699515354669340909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-21361068858432023932012-08-29T01:06:17.447-04:002012-08-29T01:06:17.447-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Old Schoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13699515354669340909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-42116160721771382062012-08-29T00:43:40.148-04:002012-08-29T00:43:40.148-04:00Introvert, I'm not sure you got the apology I ...Introvert, I'm not sure you got the apology I wrote you on that other post, so I am alerting you to it here.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I think the unfortunate truth is that when you are a seminarian or priest, a soldier-in-the-making or soldier, a grad student or professor, an athlete or a coach, what you do reflects upon the profession you represent and the trust you have been granted as a Frog and Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377542172335502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-6499703179174652842012-08-29T00:08:37.230-04:002012-08-29T00:08:37.230-04:00Agreed.
@Academic Monkey: post please?Agreed. <br />@Academic Monkey: post please?Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16403289509523215570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47403732830571175302012-08-28T22:49:17.695-04:002012-08-28T22:49:17.695-04:00A mistake is when you lock your keys in your car. ...A mistake is when you lock your keys in your car. A "mistake" is not deliberately driving to the riot and participating in vandalism. CrayonEaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10126396989880932207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-49907063862758800812012-08-28T22:46:10.188-04:002012-08-28T22:46:10.188-04:00Hm. This is timely.
Introvert, what would you do ...Hm. This is timely.<br /><br />Introvert, what would you do if you caught one of your returned-from-Iraq vets doing something VERY unbecoming in public -- something along the lines of making fun of disabled veterans and impersonating an officer?<br /><br />Not in class, just in public. Would you try to contact someone in command about what you saw? Or let it go?Academic Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086078244493768565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-57153461331383033522012-08-28T22:29:09.592-04:002012-08-28T22:29:09.592-04:00There's like three levels of sex offender, rig...There's like three levels of sex offender, right? I'm not saying that being dismissive of sexual abuse is the same as being a rapist, but anyone who riots because a child-rape enabler gets fired should have to register as whatever level you are if you pick up a 16 year old with a fake ID. I think being drunk, willingly ignorant and horny with a willing 16 year old is probably less Wombat of the Copierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847183793780076028noreply@blogger.com