tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post8619167853652432880..comments2023-10-15T04:23:50.187-04:00Comments on College Misery: Update from HiramUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-11199232726575683552012-12-24T13:41:05.301-05:002012-12-24T13:41:05.301-05:00In my final year as an undergraduate I did not han...In my final year as an undergraduate I did not hand in either paper for a full-year course. I tried to finish them before the exam - they had been due months before, of course, but the prof was willing to let me hand them in at the exam - but didn't. Then I tried to finish them, or even one, before he handed in the grades. I got partway through one and phoned him 4 days after the exam to Merely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-32977738829064712202012-12-24T13:35:06.431-05:002012-12-24T13:35:06.431-05:00Totally document.Totally document.Merely Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452389428113097744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-39497792552343742942012-12-23T14:35:13.798-05:002012-12-23T14:35:13.798-05:00I don't have a problem with you., EMH. Based o...I don't have a problem with you., EMH. Based on your post, you sounded like you knew what you were talking about and I thought there actually WERE state codes for higher ed and that it would be helpful not only to Hiram, but to others of us dealing with the same issue. <br /><br />Then when I asked for further clarification about what those were (because I actually thought you were on to The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-47074199342378202012-12-22T11:06:48.300-05:002012-12-22T11:06:48.300-05:00Cynic,
I'm not sure what your problem with me...Cynic,<br /><br />I'm not sure what your problem with me is, but I'm just trying to be supportive of Hiram.<br /><br />At any rate, I don't feel like feeding you today.Emergency Mathematical Hologramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873569623797587860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-87688157000698039512012-12-22T09:37:29.661-05:002012-12-22T09:37:29.661-05:00Perhaps Lucas is an only child, and will therefore...Perhaps Lucas is an only child, and will therefore be the one responsible for Daddy's care in his declining years.<br /><br />Then Dad will reap what he's sown.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00331203839723194193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-75899451363105139212012-12-21T20:51:00.094-05:002012-12-21T20:51:00.094-05:00Hiram, I've been away from civilization for th...Hiram, I've been away from civilization for the week (there's no internet connection at the bottom of this bottle) so I didn't get a chance to weigh in with my mighty, mighty words of wisdom. I'll take this opportunity to update everybody. (Still pretty drunk, so I want to make it clear that I'm just kidding.)<br /><br />I have not been in your situation think you made the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-53740980035003781732012-12-21T17:12:20.978-05:002012-12-21T17:12:20.978-05:00Oh, I thought you knew what you were talking about...Oh, I thought you knew what you were talking about. <br /><br />When I google state education codes and grades, only K-12 school district mandates come through. I also researched WASC guidelines for higher ed, but that has nothing about grades, either.The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-79292286740889096992012-12-21T13:44:46.112-05:002012-12-21T13:44:46.112-05:00"The lie may come into the world, even domina..."The lie may come into the world, even dominate the world, but not through me."<br />- Solzhenitsyn<br /><br />Good on ya Hiram!Rosencrantz Andor Guildensternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095512139776536635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-12990930415827215272012-12-21T13:41:01.222-05:002012-12-21T13:41:01.222-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Prof Poopieheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997969128824319914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-60495502257883642452012-12-21T13:39:54.399-05:002012-12-21T13:39:54.399-05:00In a similar vein to Bella, if I'd been dealt ...In a similar vein to Bella, if I'd been dealt a situation like this, my parting words to the Chair/Dean (mind you, where I am, tenure is ACTUALLY tenure...) would be something to the effect of "Next time, just change the grade and don't bother getting me involved, because I'm going to disagree with the grade change if it is undeserved, and you're going to override my Prof Poopieheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997969128824319914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-35831381714461262392012-12-21T11:52:39.537-05:002012-12-21T11:52:39.537-05:00I am suprised by this, is this not grade fixing? I...I am suprised by this, is this not grade fixing? Isn't there someone outside the university to whom this can be reported?Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653265363298375065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27970437631081162102012-12-21T10:49:02.368-05:002012-12-21T10:49:02.368-05:00At my alma mater, at least while I was an undergra...At my alma mater, at least while I was an undergrad there, students could request a grade change, but there was a process for that. As I recall, the final exams were kept by the university and only those were reviewed as all other material and exams were returned to the students.<br /><br />But we were warned, however. Whatever grade resulted from that review, even if it was lower, would be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-48927877955853369912012-12-21T09:56:13.063-05:002012-12-21T09:56:13.063-05:00Ah, Hiram; you're a better and more courageous...Ah, Hiram; you're a better and more courageous person than I am. I probably would have dropped it (but continued to stew internally -- not a good combination). At least you got the Dean to say the magic words: "it's my responsibility." The situation still sucks, but the responsibility is clear. You did your best by both your students and your institution; take a well-earned Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-43876378984341577092012-12-21T09:53:58.623-05:002012-12-21T09:53:58.623-05:00Grade changes require paperwork for us, too. In ...Grade changes require paperwork for us, too. In most cases, this protects us; when a student lobbies for a better grade, we can honestly say that we can't make a change without a valid reason, and the chair's signature. Of course, this only works if you have a chair with integrity; so far, I've been lucky in that regard. Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-10331876185337731332012-12-21T09:40:19.811-05:002012-12-21T09:40:19.811-05:00Does the Dean's name appear as the teacher of ...Does the Dean's name appear as the teacher of record?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-15027060181802491462012-12-21T08:53:38.680-05:002012-12-21T08:53:38.680-05:00Hi Hirram! I am late to this party, having been o...Hi Hirram! I am late to this party, having been out all day yesterday and distracted the day before. <br /><br />But I'd just like to add that we are all the sum of our experiences. This happened, and next time it happens (and it probably will happen again) you can do things differently. Like you said, you were taken off guard. You did not know the Dean would act this way. I like what Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686242633678466958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-91429296929900380542012-12-21T07:53:27.362-05:002012-12-21T07:53:27.362-05:00I suppose you could Google it.
A colleague of min...I suppose you could Google it.<br /><br />A colleague of mine had bookmarked a link to California's education code. It's funny because our Dean at the time often made claims about the education code that were simply not true.Emergency Mathematical Hologramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873569623797587860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-46007501129616832172012-12-21T07:20:19.345-05:002012-12-21T07:20:19.345-05:00AdjunctSlave is correct. Several of my non-academi...AdjunctSlave is correct. Several of my non-academic friends use this term often. When pronounced, the A word is emphasized.Dr Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444414777736734711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-21309439706481545022012-12-21T05:35:42.661-05:002012-12-21T05:35:42.661-05:00I am not sure, but I think the "S" signi...I am not sure, but I think the "S" signifies the lack of intelligence and "A" the place on the body where said lack of intelligence resides. When combined with MF, which I assume signifies a propensity to have sexual intercourse with one's female parent, the result is a phrase that is reasonably common, or at least "rings" nicely.AdjunctSlavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025851491072402087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-82424871336203741402012-12-21T05:07:00.169-05:002012-12-21T05:07:00.169-05:00Dr D, WTF is SAMFer?
- PG
(MF I get, but SA is...Dr D, WTF is SAMFer? <br /> - PG<br /><br />(MF I get, but SA isn't showing up in searches.)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-29638441427011991012012-12-21T04:58:48.816-05:002012-12-21T04:58:48.816-05:00Hiram, everybody else has been far more articulate...Hiram, everybody else has been far more articulate than I was about this, but I'd like to join the chorus again and say:<br />1. What an asshole! "Have a happy holiday." <br />2. You did what you could given Dean Asshole's power. <br />3. As frustrating as the Lucas situation is, you held your students to high standards, and enough of them rose to the occasion that the class Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906546940408742913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-21543936279523277392012-12-21T03:52:35.325-05:002012-12-21T03:52:35.325-05:00We have it written into our faculty contract that ...We have it written into our faculty contract that only faculty may assign grades, and grades will only be changed if an incorrect grade was entered. Student work will not be re-evaluated in order to assign a new grade. <br /><br />This came about because of previous administrators like Hiram's. Bastards. Annie Oakleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396950355961607377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-41699551855865157342012-12-21T03:15:58.089-05:002012-12-21T03:15:58.089-05:00Totally agree with Academaniac's and CrayonEat...Totally agree with Academaniac's and CrayonEater's calls for documentation here. CYA is always a good MO, IMHO.Edna Expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11438002061912782295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-27796798253396448782012-12-21T02:35:18.047-05:002012-12-21T02:35:18.047-05:00Once the due date has passed, we can't change ...Once the due date has passed, we can't change them without filling out paperwork that justifies a grade change (and this requires the dean's signature). But this pisses me off no end!The Contemplative Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088570661592922436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883226237165701608.post-33801170993308511602012-12-21T01:36:46.518-05:002012-12-21T01:36:46.518-05:00It didn't quite work that way where I used to ...It didn't quite work that way where I used to teach. We may have filled in the grade sheets ourselves, but the department head had to approve the results. Once he got them, we had no control over what happened after that.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com