RGM Note: He's not in the hall of fame for nothing. |
As higher education professionals people who never saw the benefits of leaving college, we have conversations with our dwindling number of friends and colleagues about our students, mightily laughing in the face of FERPA. We’ve all done it. [Editor's Note: I don't understand why sexual experience is relevant here.] The conversations can include how engaged students are with course material, how interesting classes can be when students participate, or maybe we’ve passed along a particularly funny exchange with students. That is, if you want a short conversation. We love what we do, and we want to share that joymisery. But then there are the other experiences, experiences we don’t readily share because we don’t quite know how to handle themwant to blow our cover when we post the stories at College Misery. Or, we don’t share them because we don’t want our colleagues and friends to know that we can’t handle the situationswhy we drink. That’s what ProfHacker’s “Disruptive Student Behavior” is all about: it gives us a space to discuss—calmly, respectfully, and sometimes anonymously—how to handle difficult situations with studentsme a way to generate a column each week without a lot of effort since readers provide most of the useful responses.
This series has a few caveats because I know you people are a bunch of smarty pants professors who can't let a statement pass without nitpicking it to death:
- First: In this series, we will present a few scenarios, and it’s clear that how we handle these scenarios depends upon the discipline, the class size, and the culture of an institution. We try to include as many of these variables as we can because the word "variable" makes the article sound really sciency, while understanding that we can’t account for every situational difference (that's something that a humanities person would say). What we are discussing here are behaviors that—no matter the discipline or the institutional culture—impede learning for other studentskeep us refilling that hip flask every morning before work.
- Second: ProfHacker is not a place to complain about students in any mean-spirited sort of way. That is not what this series of posts attemptsnot as awesome as College Misery. Instead, we want to focus on what we can do, positively and professionally, to handle the sometimes-difficult situations we can have with students because there's a little bit of our soul left that higher education hasn't crushed yet (and maybe someday we'll get health insurance!).
- Third, please don’t focus solely on the examples. These are merely examples that I chose to use. I could have chosen to use others. The examples are only important in that they are examples of entitled behavior from students. [Editor's Note: Are you playing a drinking game involving the number of times you write the word "example"?] [Author's Note: Drink up, Ed!]
Since I'm copying everybody else, let me plagiarize our own Archie and say, "And here's the fucking link."
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To readers subjects under my sway: I did not add the flattering unbelievably flattering and not based on anything other than maybe Mrs. Ben’s fantasy life picture and caption (thanks RGM Master and Lord). I had planned to mock the cat picture kill one of Katie from Kalamazoo ’s cats and take a picture of it, but my graphics kept turning out good hand kept slipping off the knife and now I need a bandage for my boo-boo.
P.O.W., is all I have to say. Red ink never looked so good.
ReplyDeleteActually, following the link to the original post had me browsing the comments. I really liked this one (and we should induct the poster into CM). Warning, long quote follows:
ReplyDelete'Hear, hear."I pay your salary!" -- I tell my students that my tax dollars earned from working at that institution subsidize their tuition. I pay my OWN salary, and I work HARD for the privilege to do so.
Or students who use their grades in unrelated subjects to justify a reconsideration of their grade. The "I got A's in history and you gave me a B in English!" In that instance, just tell them their performance in other courses is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
I'm really not sure what else to do about these kinds of students other than to be as rigid as possible with written policies -- but in that case, you can't give ANYONE any leeway EVER, because it might get out that you cut someone some slack.
Basically, some students will always try to derail you in discussions. Don't let them. Ignore EVERYTHING they say that isn't DIRECTLY RELATED to the course. Say something like "I'm not sure what that has to do with your participation and/or performance in this course. Could you please clarify?" And keep doing that until they get down to the bare-bones of their "argument" -- "I WANT AN A!" ... Then you can rightly say: "Okay, check your syllabus to learn how to earn it." Don't get into arguments or discussions with them. Just force them to strip their arguments down to the bratty core and sometimes even they will see that what they're asking for is ridiculous.'
I noticed that, too. Really, the advice isn't that different. They do curse less, however, and I didn't see any mentions of arcane, extra-lethal weaponry nor detailed instructions for how to employ it against the offending student. Heaven help the RGM if anybody ever stumbles upon a Strelnikov comment without understanding the context.
DeleteJesus, does everyone realize how many levels there are to this page? I was reading Ben's funny epilogue and all of a sudden it changed and now he was paying homage to the RGM as "Master and Lord." Did RGM put that in there? In the track changes format, too?
ReplyDeletePost of the Week, for sure...but add RGM to the Hall of Fame, too. For all the shit he puts up with alone. How does he keep his sense of humor?
That was the funniest part of the post so of course RGM wrote it. I concur with your recommendation and would add Fab Sun, founder of CM and all moderators since.
DeleteFuck you, Ben! Don't try to praise me. If I'm not six inches away from a revolver in my mouth I'm not really happy at all. Better to let me stew in my juices, as I can still hear mother saying. Mother? Is that you? No, it can't be. You're still in Cleveland. Fuck, what is that sound in my head!!!!!
DeleteIt's always fun to catch a post in mid-banter. Or to catch a deleted post before it gets the axe.
DeleteToo bad I'm a bit slow most of the time. I'm just catching on to the link font being blue now (it was red before, I am almost positive. I like to think I'm good with colors).
Six inches? That far away?
DeleteYou must be having a better week than I am. Last night I had the muzzle in my mouth, but it tasted too good to spoil it by pulling the trigger and getting that nasty cordite taste thing going.
I'm in the middle of grading term paper first drafts, and my sympathies are heartily with all you English Comp proffies out there who have to put up with this bullshit semester in and semester out.
I spewed my drink on this one. Thanks for the break from grading. Now I have to clean my keyboard.
ReplyDeleteDear RGM: this graphic of Ben is distressing me. Please change it to one that you think I'll like. I won't tell you what I like, but I'll complain about it once you have it up and have deleted this post. Then I'll blame you for that, too.
ReplyDeleteYou don't want to see the photo of Ben I think you'll like. I don't want to see it again either!
DeleteEeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww!
DeleteThis made my week. Now I shall go and grade quizzes in a benevolent and cheerful mood, for which my students can thank Billie, Ben and the RGM.
ReplyDeleteAs the kids would say, "Bwaaaaaaaahhaaaaaahahahahahaha!!!"
ReplyDeletePOW. Hands down.
As mash-ups go, the only thing missing here is an invasion of zombies. POW, fer shure, doood.
ReplyDeleteOh Beaker Ben, I love a guy who makes me laugh! This is fabulous.
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