Monday, August 2, 2010

Just don't do it! Srsly!

Hey, ya'll!

I'm a Fool for School!

I'm here to remind y'all who are grads and undergrads to avoid private/institutional loans. If your school offers you one to "help pay expenses," DON'T DO IT! Stick to federal loans (e.g. Stafford, Direct, Perkins, etc.) if you need a loan. Or credit cards, which can be wiped during bankruptcy. In fact, if you, personally, have to pay A DIME for grad school, DON'T GO! Unless it's a professional degree with actual job opportunities. You know, like law or business school. And even then, pray for a job every night!

Why do you need to SAY NO TO PRIVATE STUDENT LOANS? Because the school will take your stuff if you're out of work and can't pay them back. Srsly! The government will take your stuff too (eventually) but they now have all sorts of fancy programs to help you when you're in trouble. You have to screw up royally for the feds to come after you now. That may even change a bit (for the better) in the next few years (I hope). But your school or a private lender? They'll take grandma's dying bequest to you and sell it for $1 to apply to the debt. Srsly!

(A freakin' "read more" link should go here, but Blogger's treating me like I'm her bitch.)

My tale of College Misery:

Some readers will recall those halcyon days of the late 80s and early 90s when professors were on the lookout for THE NEXT GREAT SCHOLAR. They kept an eagle-eye on their students and directed notables with a scholastic aptitude to "think about grad school." At one time, this was a Good Thing [TM] because the expansion of tertiary education in the US was forecast to require more workers (which it did). Oh, and there was that report with the prediction of MASSIVE retirements in the humanities that was going to create a need for more PhDs; same eventually was said of the sciences. Too bad those people never retired. (And when/if they did retire, those faculty lines got converted to adjunct contracts in too many cases.)

But, by the mid-90s, this job trajectory was starting to prove problematic. After telling me I was "gifted," my undergraduate mentor proceeded to "help" me apply to an esoteric grad program at a VERY EXPENSIVE school for a discipline with about a dozen or so departments across the country. She also told me to expect to have to pay for the first year because "that seemed to be how things run now." Great teacher, bad career advice-giver.

In those Luddite-lovin', pre-Internet days, the information about grad programs was scarce, and job statistics of graduates from those programs were all but non-existent. Programs filled pamphlets with descriptions of all the fancy, fantastic jobs their grads got! Gee, if you just worked hard, and performed well, the future was ripe for the pickin'! Except it wasn't. Once inside the belly of the beast, the other grad students told you the REAL STORY, like how those fancy jobs had been acquired without the degree you were working to get or from a different degree (from a program before this school or after), or how those fancy jobs were examples from 10-20 YEARS PRIOR at institutions/workplaces that no longer existed or hadn't hired in a decade. But the (unwitting? delusional? deadwood?) proffies were still lying when they told us we could expect to graduate and find TT jobs for $45-55K a year. It's 15 years later and few disciplines (save the professional schools and many sciences) can expect to start out making that NOW!

So, yeah, in 1995 I took out this new-fangled thing to help me pay that rabidly high tuition: an institutional loan. It was relatively small as student loans go: just $5k. It was to replace a Perkins loan (they ran out of money! wow! how could THAT happen?!?!) so I took it in lieu of quitting an almost-complete degree. It's been a shitstorm ever since! They would lose deferment forms. They would lose forbearance forms. They demanded payment even though I was in the 6-month "find a job, you deadbeat" grace period after getting the degree. They even demanded payment while I was in deferment while attending another school. By the end, I had paid it down to $4K and was working as an adjunct.

Enter the economic meltdown of 2008! (Yeah, over a decade later thanks to them finally honoring deferments). Job loss. Income reduction. Consolidation loan finalized. One loan disappears off records. No idea this isn't normal; apparently the loan record remains with a zero balance for those of you who didn't know (like me!). Loan apparently slips through the cracks because, guess what, it's not eligible! Reappears on records at time of lawsuit. (Why did it disappear? Nobody can tell me!) Demand for payment. Inability to repay what they want. Arrival of sheriffs to levy property for the payment of $4K. No, wait -- it's now $7K! Holy crap!

Morals of the story:

1.) DON'T TAKE ANY INSTITUTIONAL STUDENT LOANS! Don't do it. Run away. Live under a bridge. Just. Don't. Do. It. Srsly!

2.) If your school thinks adjuncting their courses = student aid, they are a crap school and you need to RUN AWAY NOW! As a graduate student teacher/ teaching assistant, you deserve tuition remission and a stipend equal to a living wage ABOVE THE POVERTY LINE. Full stop.

3.) You know how all those debt gurus tell you that student loan debt is "good debt"? Liars. All of them. Don't over-use your credit cards, but, if you have to, use them for books and living expenses. Don't use loan money for anything but tuition and major expenses like health insurance. Your credit cards can be wiped or re-arranged in bankruptcy. STUDENT LOANS ARE WITH YOU FOR LIFE! You can and will bounce back from bankruptcy, but how will it feel when you have to tell mom that some sheriff took her mom's favorite brooch for auction? You know, the one that's been in the family since 1923. The crappy piece of costume jewelry that everyone remembers gram wearing in her wedding photo. They'll take it, you can bet on it. And they'll also take your computer and television and books etc.

4.) People have forgotten the controversy of the early 00s when several colleges and universities openly admitted (and were praised in some places for) capriciously raising tuition to compete with one another. Notice how no one mentions that anymore, especially since those schools found ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY ways to spend that extra income (new buildings, better dorms, coaches whose salaries rival and often exceed those of professional coaches, rock-climbing walls in the rec center, rabid expansion of administrative staff and their salaries, etc.) while simultaneously writing off their cash-strapped grads and faculty (while also expanding the ranks of the former and shrinking the latter). How about helping your alumni, colleges? Or not making their lives Hell just because you can? Some of y'all have larger endowments now than you did in the 80s, so why not spend it instead of "investing" it to make some businessmen and businesswomen more wealthy than they already are?

5.) Don't be a fool! Don't go to grad school! (At least not if you or your parents are footing the bill!) Srsly!

4 comments:

  1. You can easily use a transfer check from a credit card company to pay off other debts, such as students loans, albeit with a typical 3% transfer fee.

    So your assertion that student loans can't be wiped clean in bankruptcy isn't 100% accurate, as you can transfer them to a credit card (if you have the available balance) and then declare bankruptcy.

    Not that bankruptcy is a good thing, however! It can totally screw you, and forget about getting another loan, such as a mortgage!

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  2. I know hindsight is 20/20, but...

    I've found there is a lot of wisdom in the idea of spending 2 years working and saving before going to grad school. Being part of a connected industry and learning a language during these 2 years can help get you into a better school (if you spend it wisely) and you can save the money to get through that first year instead of borrowing.

    A lot of grad schools now require the first year paid.

    Strange: I paid that first year, and went on into the field and am earning a decent (middle class) salary. The 7 people I know who got fellowships/PAships/TAships and received a tuition remission for the first year all quit the program without degrees.

    Anecdotal, I know, but maybe there is something to the whole putting your money where your mouth is.

    All in all, though: avoid loans like the plague. They aren't free. They really really aren't. You are selling half your life, if only you knew...

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  3. No Cookies, did we read the same item? I think Fool4School actually said just what you said, only a little differently:

    Your argument is for paying off a student loan (with a credit card), not about using a bankruptcy to clear a student loan. The 2 are distinctly different unless you have a card with a 20K+ limit for Stafford loans.

    Oddly enough, some people still think that federal loans can be expunged in bankruptcy; only old ones can be (I think the cut off is 2001 or something).

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  4. I'm sorry, but Fool4School was beaten to the punch by Thomas H. Benton (William Pennapacker)
    a year ago. In a CHE column* titled "Graduate School in the Humanities: Just Don't Go" he brought up the horrendous debt load, but he also pointed out that most humanites grads will be ten years behind their age cohort when they actually get down to working in academia (and then they will be doing the adjunct shuffle.) His advice was like Fool4School's: don't go if you have to pay, but he added on provisos such as not going if you aren't independently wealthy, or academically connected, or earning a credential for a job you already have, or have a partner that is willing to be the provider. Benton has written four or five columns like this in the past decade at the Chronicle and all of them have met deafening silence from professors.

    On the "Luddite" comment: By 1995 the cheesy little community college I was going to had two computers hooked up to the virtual wasteland but even then it was very basic**. F4S needed to "shop around" and find graduate students in similar fields and ask them how it was going and not rely on an instructor, but then, if you remember the 1990s you remember how insanely optomistic the decade was (new economy, post-Cold War triumphalism, day-trading, etc.)

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    * dated January 30, 2009. Back in the Bush II years he wrote a column asking if graduate school was a cult.

    ** No search engines but `bots, no streaming video, grainy photos, gray web pages, no secured sites, people who would run their site through an encoder so it would look like gibberish, no streaming video, no mp3s, FAQ files in ASCII, no way to read websites coded in non latin scripts, no webblogs until 1999-2000 and even then they were just online diaries. Hell, even NASA's mission control was still using 1970s mini-computers into the 1990s.

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