It's another name for Recreation and Tourism Management, often encompassing recreation therapy as well. My spouse has a degree in the former and is currently applying to get a Master's in the therapeutic recreation aspect to improve skillset and job opportunities.
Clearly if you're a music student and you practice, that counts as studying, although the numbers are disturbingly low for that (I practiced an hour a day when I was in university and I wasn't even a music student), and if you're an art major and you work in studio (although the art students I knew spent almost all their free time in studio) you can count those hours. Does that mean the phys. ed. majors are really that inactive?? I have read that ten hours a week is not unusual for the average student at the average institution. When I was a student, I was told by one of my profs. that it was widely understood that a student needed to spend three hours studying etc. for every hour in class. Those were the days.
I second your first paragraph about music and art and throw in my two cents regarding architecture: I had several friends that were architecture majors. They spent many hours working on their Final Projects (cardboard/foamboard models) in their senior year to get them to look "just so." Is holding a "wall" in place while the glue dries or making trees out of pipecleaners and Spanish moss "studying"?
We had a presentation today from students who had studied abroad for a semester. One of them observed that, in European universities, you're expected to do most of the work outside of class.
I thought that was the standard higher-education model. Shows how much I know.
I've had a few students ask me on the first day of class if we're going to do the reading in class. Like, out loud. Third-grade round-robin style. Which makes me wonder what they do in their other classes.
Right. When I saw the 16h, I thought "they need more homework, or harder problems".
As a minimum, they'd need to spend 2h studying per in class, for academic subjects. If they're taking four of those (3h/wk each), that's 24h outside of class. Add it all up and it gets close to 40h, a full-time job.
Which is fine if the state pays for education (as in Europe), but a problem if they need to work to pay for college. Also, in Europe they are not required to take subjects unrelated to their majors.
I'm a data geek. Teaching all levels of a subject high up on the list above.
I have collected anonymous survey info from every class I've taught for the last 15 years. I always ask them: how many hours per week outside the classroom will you spend "working on THIS class."
Average self-reported hours per week on "THIS class" has (surprise!) declined: down from 12 in 1998 to 8 in 2012.
A student told me 6 or 7 years ago, that for a class with the name "introduction" in it, they should have to work ONE HOUR PER WEEK outside class. I've been told, "If you were any good as a teacher, I wouldn't need to spend so much time outside class teaching myself." This semester I had juniors in a technical lab class tell me they would work 6, 5, even 2 hours per week outside class.
Three weeks in, the little fuckers that indicated less than 9 hours per week are already foundering. Gotta ink up the red ink pad for my "You fail, you loser" stamp.
WTF Leisure Studies?
ReplyDeleteHow do you know if a leisure studies student is using his afternoon for study time or, um, leisure time?
DeleteIt's another name for Recreation and Tourism Management, often encompassing recreation therapy as well. My spouse has a degree in the former and is currently applying to get a Master's in the therapeutic recreation aspect to improve skillset and job opportunities.
Deleteplease tell me that's per class,,,,,,,
ReplyDeleteClearly if you're a music student and you practice, that counts as studying, although the numbers are disturbingly low for that (I practiced an hour a day when I was in university and I wasn't even a music student), and if you're an art major and you work in studio (although the art students I knew spent almost all their free time in studio) you can count those hours. Does that mean the phys. ed. majors are really that inactive??
ReplyDeleteI have read that ten hours a week is not unusual for the average student at the average institution. When I was a student, I was told by one of my profs. that it was widely understood that a student needed to spend three hours studying etc. for every hour in class. Those were the days.
I second your first paragraph about music and art and throw in my two cents regarding architecture: I had several friends that were architecture majors. They spent many hours working on their Final Projects (cardboard/foamboard models) in their senior year to get them to look "just so." Is holding a "wall" in place while the glue dries or making trees out of pipecleaners and Spanish moss "studying"?
DeletePS: Love the leisure studies joke.
ReplyDeleteWe had a presentation today from students who had studied abroad for a semester. One of them observed that, in European universities, you're expected to do most of the work outside of class.
ReplyDeleteI thought that was the standard higher-education model. Shows how much I know.
I've had a few students ask me on the first day of class if we're going to do the reading in class. Like, out loud. Third-grade round-robin style. Which makes me wonder what they do in their other classes.
DeleteYes, that's something I hear quite often in freshman classes.
DeleteAt least you would know that one student would actually read one portion of the book.
DeleteOne cannot possibly understand mathematics in just 16 hours per week of studying. How do they pass an algebra exam?
ReplyDeleteRight. When I saw the 16h, I thought "they need more homework, or harder problems".
DeleteAs a minimum, they'd need to spend 2h studying per in class, for academic subjects. If they're taking four of those (3h/wk each), that's 24h outside of class. Add it all up and it gets close to 40h, a full-time job.
Which is fine if the state pays for education (as in Europe), but a problem if they need to work to pay for college. Also, in Europe they are not required to take subjects unrelated to their majors.
I'm a data geek. Teaching all levels of a subject high up on the list above.
ReplyDeleteI have collected anonymous survey info from every class I've taught for the last 15 years. I always ask them: how many hours per week outside the classroom will you spend "working on THIS class."
Average self-reported hours per week on "THIS class" has (surprise!) declined: down from 12 in 1998 to 8 in 2012.
A student told me 6 or 7 years ago, that for a class with the name "introduction" in it, they should have to work ONE HOUR PER WEEK outside class. I've been told, "If you were any good as a teacher, I wouldn't need to spend so much time outside class teaching myself." This semester I had juniors in a technical lab class tell me they would work 6, 5, even 2 hours per week outside class.
Three weeks in, the little fuckers that indicated less than 9 hours per week are already foundering. Gotta ink up the red ink pad for my "You fail, you loser" stamp.