Tuesday, January 29, 2013

If My Students Studied 15 hours a week, I'd Throw Them a TeaPrtying BeerParty.


Is college too easy? As study time falls, debate rises.

Click for WashPost article.



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    1. How do you know if a leisure studies student is using his afternoon for study time or, um, leisure time?

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    2. It's another name for Recreation and Tourism Management, often encompassing recreation therapy as well. My spouse has a degree in the former and is currently applying to get a Master's in the therapeutic recreation aspect to improve skillset and job opportunities.

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  2. Clearly if you're a music student and you practice, that counts as studying, although the numbers are disturbingly low for that (I practiced an hour a day when I was in university and I wasn't even a music student), and if you're an art major and you work in studio (although the art students I knew spent almost all their free time in studio) you can count those hours. Does that mean the phys. ed. majors are really that inactive??
    I have read that ten hours a week is not unusual for the average student at the average institution. When I was a student, I was told by one of my profs. that it was widely understood that a student needed to spend three hours studying etc. for every hour in class. Those were the days.

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    1. I second your first paragraph about music and art and throw in my two cents regarding architecture: I had several friends that were architecture majors. They spent many hours working on their Final Projects (cardboard/foamboard models) in their senior year to get them to look "just so." Is holding a "wall" in place while the glue dries or making trees out of pipecleaners and Spanish moss "studying"?

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  3. PS: Love the leisure studies joke.

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  4. We had a presentation today from students who had studied abroad for a semester. One of them observed that, in European universities, you're expected to do most of the work outside of class.

    I thought that was the standard higher-education model. Shows how much I know.

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    1. I've had a few students ask me on the first day of class if we're going to do the reading in class. Like, out loud. Third-grade round-robin style. Which makes me wonder what they do in their other classes.

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    2. Yes, that's something I hear quite often in freshman classes.

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    3. At least you would know that one student would actually read one portion of the book.

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  5. One cannot possibly understand mathematics in just 16 hours per week of studying. How do they pass an algebra exam?

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    1. Right. When I saw the 16h, I thought "they need more homework, or harder problems".

      As a minimum, they'd need to spend 2h studying per in class, for academic subjects. If they're taking four of those (3h/wk each), that's 24h outside of class. Add it all up and it gets close to 40h, a full-time job.

      Which is fine if the state pays for education (as in Europe), but a problem if they need to work to pay for college. Also, in Europe they are not required to take subjects unrelated to their majors.

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  6. I'm a data geek. Teaching all levels of a subject high up on the list above.

    I have collected anonymous survey info from every class I've taught for the last 15 years. I always ask them: how many hours per week outside the classroom will you spend "working on THIS class."

    Average self-reported hours per week on "THIS class" has (surprise!) declined: down from 12 in 1998 to 8 in 2012.

    A student told me 6 or 7 years ago, that for a class with the name "introduction" in it, they should have to work ONE HOUR PER WEEK outside class. I've been told, "If you were any good as a teacher, I wouldn't need to spend so much time outside class teaching myself." This semester I had juniors in a technical lab class tell me they would work 6, 5, even 2 hours per week outside class.

    Three weeks in, the little fuckers that indicated less than 9 hours per week are already foundering. Gotta ink up the red ink pad for my "You fail, you loser" stamp.

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